Breadcrumbing what?
You know, I just noticed this.
Rysto says that he is a Doc, and he protected Meeko last Night. The evidence for this comes in the form of a breadcrumb, revolving around the phrase “slightly healed feeling”. So, assuming Rysto is telling the truth and Meeko woke up with a “slightly healed feeling”, then why did peeker wake up with a “faintly healed feeling”, post #2003?
So here’s what we have - a different target was woke up feeling healed than what Rysto claimed, with a different wording. Different wording implies different protective roles - makes sense in a game with more than one flavour of Scum.
So… what proof is there that Rysto is the traditional Doc, and not this mysterious individual who faintly healed peeker? Could it be that he is not a BH-blocking Doc, but instead something else entirely? A sin-blocker role, perhaps. How knows?
So… if Rysto can’t be shown to be a Doc in the traditional sense, then it is not impossible for him to be Scum aligned. A Scum Doctor who counters sinfection… not inconceivable.
Rysto’s “proof” of his Towniness is weak. Even if he can show that he was honest about protecting peeker and Meeko when he said he did, there is no proof that the protection is what he says it is. “A slightly healed feeling” by no means is proof of protection from the BH.
I am glad you guys know what you all are doing. Here is what the noob is dealing with:
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**What does “Alpha” sinner mean? ** I haven’t seen this word at all, except from people who are throwing spaghetti at the wall, and seeing what sticks.
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In the same manner, people are saying we are at Ly/Lo. What is Ly/Lo? How exactly do we know we are there?
3.Didn’t the gastard say that he would use different wording?
An addendum: These were deliberatly not precomposed, meaning if someone quotes their PM as Town, and it’s worded differently than yours, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re lying.
This was from all the way back in post # 63
All I know, is that we have a person who edited their PM. That is anti-town. Untill I get more informaiton, my vote stays.
At the same time, we are assuming something.
Rysto, Post your Role PM please.
I think we know what it would mean if you can’t.
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In werewolf-themed games, the “Alpha Werewolf” is a werewolf who investigates as town. peeker has claimed that if he is ensinned, he still investigates as Town, which would make him an Alpha Sinner, I guess
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Ly/Lo is “lynch or lose”. This is the point where the Town must lynch scum, or they lose. The town reaches that point where there are 2 or fewer more townies than scum. In this game, if there are 4 Blackhearts then there are 5 non-Blackhearts. If we lynch a non-Blackheart in that scenario, the Blackhearts gain control of the vote and win.
If there are 3 Blackhearts, then there are 6 non-Blackhearts, and the Town will lose if they lynch 2 more non-Blackhearts.
- I posted my role PM on the previous page.
If there’s another role out there who’s “faintly” healing somewhere, where are that role’s other targets?
Fair question. I assume they’ve been keeping quiet so far, a smart move, the suggestion in your breadcrumb post. All I can say is that it hasn’t been me any Night, and that I hope someone comes forward, and I really hope that BHs haven’t been the ones being faintly healed.
Oh boy. This is going to get messy. I removed the parts of your quote I am not going to use. Hopefully, as I kept paragraphs, the context remains.
I will address each paragraph in turn.
1."“The evidence for this comes in the form of a breadcrumb, revolving around the phrase “slightly healed feeling”.”" [SIZE=“4”]No.[/SIZE] It comes from the fact that Rysto said that he protected me deliberately set out to prove his claim by stating that he targeted me. It was not the breadcrumb, it was the fact that, what do you know, he IS a doctor.
Remember, that Peeker was (apparently) protected the night after I was protected the first time. – My targeting was not back to back.
2.I was careful to point out that I know Rysto to be a Doctor. I went above and beyond that, to point out that I was still not sure of his allignment. We can guess at the numbers all day, but a Doctor is far better than a Half Detective / Half Sinner Bulletproof role. --If you were BH bulletproof, it would be different.
– And I’m just ASSUMING you posted a correct PM there, Allwalker, I mean, I don’t get why you left out the Sinner Bulletproof clause. I am sure we could have used that a LOT earlier in the game. A LOT EARLIER. I would take a Doctor of unkown allignment, over a 50/50 confirmed editor of his Role PM.
If you guys want to step in here, and help, PLEASE do.
Here is where it gets REAL MESSY:
3.A slightly healed feeling" by no means is proof of protection from the BH.
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This is a chocolate in my peanut butter, peanut butter in your chocolate situation.**It is a question that cannot be asked.**You are forcing apples and oranges here. You are mixing things up.
**The PM stating a healed feeling would NEVER exist, if we were to be targeted by BH. The fact that we can post “Healing feeling” the day after is Quasi-evidence we were ““protected”” from BH. **
Let’s think about this for a second.
Is it ever possible to die in your dreams? No, because no one would have known that you had a dream in which you died. *
Either you died in your sleep, or you did not. It will REMAIN anyone’s guess if you were dreaming
Granted, the BH simply could have target someone else. But At the same time, Peeker and I are still alive. What is to say that BH target more than one person a night?
Allwalker, you might be town. But, you are trying everything in the book to confuse us here.
Rysto, you had a free shot at this, and you threw it away.
Let us try once more here. If you can’t give me what I am looking for, in full, I think you know what that means.
And if you need some fire under your feet :
Unvote Allwalker.
Now, your next post (or two, in case we are simulposting) WILL decide If I vote, or re-vote. Am I clear?
uh, FUCK. my head just exploded. I agree.
I shudder to think what our masonry would have looked like if it was just Meeks and Peeks.
Meeko, I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. That is my entire PM, as ped sent it to me.
NETA :
The pm stating a healed feeling would never exist, if we were **SUCCESSFULLY **targeted by a BH.
Ok.
I don’t want to give you the short end here.
Blame it on me beeing a Noob, Blame it on me being Meeko.
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Quote this message, and right under it, cut and paste your role PM.**
I can’t think of a better way for us to both know EXACTLY what we are talking about here.
Fair?
You are the Physic. Although your medical skills can do nothing against the Sinners, you can foil the Blackhearts in their quest to destroy the Puritans of Boston.
Powers:
- Each night, you can protect someone. The person will wake up with ‘a slightly healed feeling’.
You are Town.
No. I don’t know that he is a Doc. If you can vouch for his schedule of protecting you Nights 2 and 4, then that shows he can “protect”. Against what, though? He could be a BH protecting people from sinfection, for example. So I do not know that he is a Doctor, not a traditional one at least.
Sure. So?
Okay, again, how do you know he is a Doctor, and not some other role? If you wake up feeling slightly healed, that could mean anything.
And no, generally Cops are more useful than Doctors. At least, according to this widely agreed upon guide. Throwing in some Scum immunity just sweetens the deal.
Because it wasn’t relevant. The focus of my role is the Cop part, not some passive protection. Besides, a Cop would be a tempting target for sinfection, and i they wasted a Night trying to convert me, then so much the better. However, when it became clear I needed to quote my Role PM, I did. If I were making it up, that would be a weird thing to omit in my claim, only to wack it in later.
Your logic is strange. You are assuming Rysto’s Night protection protects against NK. Your proof? That you were protected during some Nights. You don’t know that you were targeted these Nights, you don’t know who targeted you - Sinners or Blackheart - and you don’t know what the protection does.
And I have a rock which keeps tigers away. It must work, I’ve never seen a tiger around here.
Yeah, I never said that.
snort
Okay, Meeko, I’ll bite. What have I said that, after reading my role claim carefully, and suspending the baseless assumption that Rysto is a Doc, isn’t completely consistent with logic? Oh pray tell, I need a laugh.
Ok.
I had not seen this before.
Given that I asked Allwalker to do it, I figured I had to do the same for you.
And, I am now just as confused with Mahaloth.
Ok.
I am Town. We all agree to that, correct?
Allwalker claims he is Town.
Rysto claims he is town.
**Are we, or are we not at LY LO ? **
NETA
Nevermind.
Only when the rock is removed, will the tiger get me. No wait, that actually makes sense.
Somehow, the sarcasm fails here.
We don’t know, but we are if there are 4 Blackhearts, which seems to be what a lot of people are guessing. I would assume there are either 3 or 4 Blackhearts, all of whom are alive.
If it’s three, we get one more mistake(toDay). toMorrow, we would have to kill a Blackheart to win. If there are 4, toDay is it. We have to get it right.
I don’t even want to get into the fact that I don’t know how the Sinners are doing in this game. I don’t know how close they are to winning.
Anyway, we need to hear from Paul, Thing Fish, Inner Stickler, and Joey on the AllWalker/Rysto conflict.
And Paul still needs to claim!
FWIW :
My only power, was that I knew that Ed was Town.
Hence, my PM only had just 1 “power”.
I also had the link to the masonry – but then again, this isn’t a power, as the masonry could have been populated with a traitor mason.
It wasn’t, but I am just saying, that Masons would only have one power.
It would make sense, comming from a Mod that had how many roles, that he more or less needed to keep in a uniform order?