and again stated with bullshit. actually i have 30+ pages of your scummitude.
if others decide not to see it then there is nothing more to be done.
and. of course. the fact that one of your main buddies is out here playing wing on your behalf is making it uphill both ways.
and you’ve got how many right? would that be zero. ok fuck, you and meek get to got to the same math class. yep you are a genius and can’t do dick right. ok, dokie you are a helper, lets’ keep you around because you are ever so contributory to a town win.
are you the same dumbass that suggested a play that would give sinners an inside track earlier in the game or was that one of your buddies?
Mahaloth… you are being nudged to check your PMs on Idlemafia for your role PM in the mini you joined.
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<Brake screech sound>**
“At this point, we’re awfully close to the Blackhearts winning”
**Chronos, And you would know this How?!
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**Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait. **
Run this by me again, Joey ?
I would know this because we’ve lost seven people out of 18 already, and none of them was a blackheart. Just how few of them do you think there are?
It stands to reason, Meeko. If there are 4 Blackhearts, we’re two mislynches away from losing. If there are 3, we’re three mislyches away from losing.
And remember, when it comes to the Blackheart win condition, lynching a sinner/impure townie is a mislynch.
Come on peeker, you know that’s not how it’s done. Saying that Mahaloth did something scummy in this game somewhere is ridiculous.
Mislynch?
If this is indeed the case, someone else needs to stick their neck out and start doing things.
I doubt anyone could fault me on not being active here.
Being wrong, sure, but at the same time, at least I was doing something.
If, in the same breath you are saying “But Meeko, there is nothing to do”, then blame the game, not me.
NETA :
Further, why can’t we all Mass Claim?
Im a Pro-town Mason.
[Ok, well, that has admitedly less oomph behind it than it should, but if we need someone to start.]
Strange, that by my count, both Rysto and Chronos are defending Mahaloth.
How many blackhearts are left?
Meeko… I don’t think that mass claiming is going to help us at all. If anything the Blackhearts would just claim vanilla town… sorry Ordinary Puritan… and we would be in the same situation we are now…
Unless of course the Sinners decided to claim honestly and out themselves… Why would they you ask? Because it doesn’t prevent them from continuing toward their wincon, and the Sinners lose to the Blackhearts the same way we do.
Okay, real slow now. Here’s what I was thinking. Sinners win when ALL players have the seed of sin, right. So, each night, we should get another sinner, some will choose to accept the sinner wincon, some will not. Also keep in mind that even if the person who get’s the seed chooses to pray, until they are purified, they will still count towards the sinner wincon. As we get closer to the end of the game, new sinners may not have time to pray the sin away, so to speak. My thought was that new sinners should be lynched. It didn’t dawn on me that that would mean two to three (most likely) town dying each night instead of 1 to 2.
Mass claiming at this stage is a little premature. Ignoring the Sinners, the split is likely 7/4 nonBH/BH. If we fail to lynch a BH toDay then a claim first thing toMorrow would be a good idea. Claiming toNight would be stupid - gives the BH a chance to NK any cool roles, without the cool roles being able to vote.
Meeko, why did you vote for me but don’t want others to? Also, do you have any evidence for your suspicions. Also, if you have evidence against me, why didn’t you list it when you voted for me yesterDay or toDay?
How is any of your actions toward me pro-town?
I am? The closest thing I can see to me defending Mahaloth is post 1756, and really all I’m saying there is that it’s possible for peeker to be mistaken even if he is Town. So even if peeker dies and is confirmed Town, that doesn’t mean that we can be certain Mahaloth is Scum.
Which is not to say that I don’t think Mahaloth is Scum; I in fact think that he’s more likely than average to be so. I just think that we need a lot stronger case than just “peeker says so”.
A. I was trying to get back to the fact that I don’t think you are as scummy as I am implying. Scummy on my part, perhaps, but again, it is a theory I have.
I am not sure if the Vote is for Peeker, or for Paul 3.0 but I figured that I could vote for Mahaloth now, and it would be the perfect time to do it. Again, Timing is an issue on my theory, and it occurs to me now, that this game is closer to ending than I thought it would be.
I need to test something, and I am doing that, hopefully you will not be lynched because of it.
B.Mahaloth, you an I have a history, albeit from Haggle, other players have stated that you are “licking my balls”, etc. I do not want to be blind to you, if you are indeed scummy.
My current theory aside, I can’t place you. I know I will get an answer soon. Again, it is outside the box, but if it works, then I will have information for town.
If it doesn’t work, the more experienced Townies playing can dismiss my entire attempt here. There is a shot at something here, I need to take it.
Is it not pro-town to stop a Bandwagon? I am willing to bet that a “I am voting for X, but I do not intend for anyone else to follow me” move has occurred in mafia before.
And further, your statement assumes you are pro town to begin with.
How is any of your actions toward me pro-town?
C. If you were scum, it would be very pro-town. If you are town, my comment that no one else vote for you should suffice.
We can all agree that I need to learn more Mafia before I play again. I am after information, but indeed, I am doing it in a Meeko like manner.
A very Meeko like manner.
This is a WIFOM move, a big one. I will provide more information later, and at that time I will probably WIFOM on top of this WIFOM.
Vote count?
Meeko, I still can’t see how you, of all people, have anything to hide at this point. We all know what your role is, so you’re not hiding that. We all know exactly what special information your role would have given you, so it’s not that, either. Anything you know at this point, you know from just reading the thread, and everyone can do that. Anything logical you could deduce from the thread, everyone else (including Scum) could deduce, too, and Scum would have had an easier time deducing anything than you would have, since they have more information than you do.
But I think I’ve given up on trying to explain. I guess I’ll just have to wait until after the game, or whenever you decide to explain your reasoning.
Meanwhile, a crazy hypothesis: Suppose that, in this game, no Blackheart has voted for another Blackheart. Ordinarily, this would be a bad idea for them, but I think it might be reasonable in this game: First of all, enough Townies have done or said scummy things to give Blackhearts plenty of excuses to vote for Townies. Second, with two scum factions in the game, Blackhearts can point to votes for Sinners to gain town cred, with no need to actually damage their own team.
OK, so if we grant this hypothesis for the sake of discussion, where does it lead? There are currently 10 live players of unknown alignment, and based on game balance issues, I suspect that there are 4 Blackhearts among those 10. If we eliminate all scenarios where a Blackheart has voted for another Blackheart, then we’re left with 46 possible arrangements. Of those 46:
Mahaloth is a Blackheart in 29 of them
Chronos is a Blackheart in 21
paul3 is a Blackheart in 22
Joey P is a Blackheart in 13
Thing Fish is a Blackheart in 18
Rysto is a Blackheart in 20
AllWalker is a Blackheart in 16
peeker is a Blackheart in 2
Stickler is a Blackheart in 29
Bear_Nenno is a Blackheart in 14
If I further assume (as I know to be true, but I can’t blame any of you for not trusting this) that I, Chronos, am not a Blackheart, then there are only 25 possible arrangements. Of those, we have
Mahaloth in 17
paul3 in 13
Joey in 8
Thing Fish in 10
Rysto in 12
AllWalker in 7
peeker in 2
Stickler in 17
Bear_Nenno in 14
Based on this, I would conclude that Mahaloth and Inner Stickler each have more than a 2 in 3 chance of being Blackguards, while peeker has only an 8% chance.
Now, granted, this does rest on some possibly shaky assumptions, but it still looks pretty bad for those two (certainly enough to make me suspicious).
I need confirmation of something. I can not trust any person in game to to confirm it for me.
Instead, The actions that Pede will take will (hopefully) confirm it for me.
However, on your Blackheart would not Vote Blackheart set up, I think you might have something there.
Seriously.
Should the town look at Sinners still, or should we look to Blackhearts?
Im not sure how we could, but we should all agree on how we need to look at things, as the game continues.