Sounds good, Meeko.
So we have an extra 27 hours in this Night. I assume Day Five will still end on Sunday at noon. Is this right, Ped?
Sounds good, Meeko.
So we have an extra 27 hours in this Night. I assume Day Five will still end on Sunday at noon. Is this right, Ped?
Oh, sorry I didn’t notice before:
Quoth Thing Fish:
My analysis shows peeker as likely non-Blackheart because I’m assuming a low number of Scum-on-Scum votes, and peeker has voted for lots of folks, and lots of folks have voted for peeker. So in almost all scenarios where peeker is Scum, multiples of those other people are Scum, too, contrary to assumption.
Seems like people are looking at Peeker. After Peeker, we have Rysto. As I write this, Rysto comes in just after Peeker in the number of posts department. I might be a bit fuzzy here, but, I believe, save for Peeker, that Rysto is the next living lurker.
Given our track record on lurkers this game, what should we do here?
Just an idea, because I’m tired of shutting down, thinking about my final hours here. I need to be more productive than I am in this game.
Meeko, Inner Stickler and AllWalker have posted less than peeker and I.
Honestly, Meeko, I don’t really think there are any lurkers left. People post different amounts of varying quality, but everyone in the game at this point is playing, at least in my opinion.
That should be parsed as Meeko: Inner Stickler and AllWalker,
Obviously Meeko has posted more than I have.
I think Meeko has 427 posts, while the next highest is specialed, who had 195.
This is nothing for Meeko, who posted more than 800 posts in one week of Haggle. That’s right…just 7 days of trading and he posted 800 times.
The man is not human…he’s a machine!
Yeah, some folks have more than others, but everyone has something that can be analyzed, now.
Well, maybe peeker doesn’t have anything that can be analyzed, but whatever it is, he has plenty of it.
I’m not a machine, I’m an unemployed Human.
I wonder if someone isn’t try to ell me the wrong time. I mean, when day is over with.
It would be over the top scummy of them if they do.
Well, that’s interesting. I understand what you’re saying, but given that he hasn’t actually come all that close to being lynched, I am guessing that at least some of those votes going both ways may have been face-saving votes (especially when peeker first came in and was throwing votes around willy-nilly. IOW, I think this method may not work as well for** peeker** as it might for someone with a more, um, traditional approach to the game.
Good point here fish. We should never forget what someone has done in the past, when we thrust their play into future events.
I’m curious Peeker, what is your win loss ratio? Is their a method to this madness?
It would be a very foolish scum indeed who tried a lie that obvious. Straight from the horse’s mouth:
Jesus… I’ve lost all track of this game because it seems to have forgotten that Days and Nights end at some point. Are we on Day still? Did I miss something? I keep checking in to find a Dusk post and haven’t seen one…
This is why I prefer different threads for each Day and Night. Much easier to tell when the Day or Night ends. As it is now I drown in Meeko posts everytime I come here to see if I can locate a single scarce post by Pedescribe…
Dusk post is number 1828. We’re in Night 4 right now and it ends Wednesday at some time that I’ll be at work. I haven’t bothered to figure it out more exactly.
Since Rysto has jumped ahead so far in the latest version of my post-analysis numbers, I thought I’d look over his history (spoilered for space):
[spoiler]
360: Subs in for SirDirx. Favors O over E. Worried about Sinner tells, because you don’t know when changed sides. Doesn’t fear scum night-actions. Reminder that with three factions, anti-one scum faction not necessarily pro-town.
361: Won’t be able to participate much.
366: Votes O paul for scaremongering about what-ifs concerning O vs. E.
367: NETA
373: Game would be imbalanced if all lynch methods hurt Town
391: Criticizes paul’s theory that Town isn’t meant to win
415: Points out to paul that the Day ended
424: Points out to Meeko that staying alive isn’t the goal; team winning is
450: Agrees with special ed that Thing Fish might be gloating
452: Explains an acronym
456: Fluff
465: Encourages Meeko to speak his mind now, lest he be silenced
479: We can’t beat Sinners by executing, if Sinfected convert
480: NETA
507: Comments on Telcontar’s role
511: Telcontar appears to have been pure
526: Brief scenario counterexample to a Meeko question
529: Explanation of terminology
561: Sees no downside in Sinfected player claiming
568: Comments on vote-buy mechanic
571: Comments on Meeko’s reckoning of “overall score”
574: Comments on paul’s talk of Sinner recruitment
579: Executing Sinner same as ostracizing Town, from Sinner POV
590: Counterproductive to speculate too much on Telcontar’s death
597: Fluffy comment on pede’s removal of execution
652: Requests clarification of Sinner wincon
657: Rethinks idea of Sinfected claiming
686: Further comment on removal of execution
689: Yet more on removal of execution
723: Disbelieves paul’s roleclaim, votes paul
730: Clarifies talk of sinfection, suspects paul is a sinner
733: Further discussion of mechanics of sinffection
758: Quotes pede clarifying sinfection mechanics
768: Another question to pede about Sinfection
835: Clarification of terminology
836: NETA
853: Comment on board custom
873: Asks ed what a busybody is
883: Following Meeko’s speculation on roles (spec. Rev. Dimmesdale)
919: Reiterates vote for paul
942: How to generate trusted random lists
943: Reminder that paul might not be truthful
971: Comment on game setup
984: Lambasts Pinkies for not saying anything until 2 hours before end of Day
986: Corrected on when day ends
994: Explaining disinfection plan to Angel
1003: Clearing Angel up on what Day it is
1052: Reconsiders opinion of paul given Pinkies lynch
1055: Reminded that paul’s vote was bought, back to suspecting him
1063: Points Mahaloth to Day 2 final vote
1089: Learns that paul wasn’t sinner, after all
1107: pede has pulled traitor mason trick before
1127: Recommends to Meeko not to tell when protected
1167: Points out existence of doctor role, since Meeko protected
1212: Defends against Angel’s mistaken vote
1214: More defense
1236: Tells peeker about execute being removed
1246: Speaks out against edits, might catch Scum slips
1377: Thinks subs are least bad solution (after paul subs Angel)
1388: Tells Meeko about implications of mass claim
1399: Doesn’t think Angel can be impure, votes Thing Fish based on Day-1 “gloat”, smudge of Freudian
1402: Comment on game rules
1434: Explanation of terminology
1446: Clarifies reason for having voted paul
1460: Reminds paul he’s dead
1477: Reminds peeker it’s night (after peeker tried to vote)
1560: Mechanics of night actions
1581: Explanation of terminology (gastard)
1586: Further on gastard
1607: Compares paul to dotchan
1617: Discusses politician role in previous game
1625: Further on previous game with politician
1635: Suspects politician is Town, speculates on why BillMC was Sinfected
1640: Accuses paul3 of fishing
1646: Says that peeker being anti-Town isn’t enough reason to vote him, since it doesn’t make sense for Scum, either
1648: “Not helpful to town” is not equivalent to “helpful to scum”.
1698: Doesn’t make sense for peeker to jump on odd phrasing by Mahaloth
1766: Agrees with Chronos that Blackhearts are close to winning, sinner is effectively mislynch
1767: Asks peeker for specifics on Mahaloth
1792: Comments on Chronos’ analysis
1795: Further on Chronos’ analysis
1799: Further criticism of Chronos’ analysis
1809: Re-reads, criticizes Mahaloth for Day 1 behaviour
1810: NETA votes Mahaloth
1823: Explanation of forbidden thread
1833: Clarification of end of Day
1926: Recommends Meeko wait to post claim-order list
1944: Points out he’s not the lurkiest
1946: Clarification of above[/spoiler]
Analysis after the break
Rysto has had a total of 89 posts to this thread. Out of those, approximately a third are concerned with Sin and Sinners (how they work, who he suspects is a Sinner, etc.). Another third of his posts are miscellaneous little things, about the general workings of Mafia games, explanations of terminology, clarifications of rules, etc., that are at least superficially helpful in general, but don’t really help much in the specific. The final third of his posts are largely taken up by fluff, NETAs, discussion of the vote-buying mechanic (which apparently stung him pretty badly in a previous game), discussion of my analysis methods, etc. He doesn’t say one thing about Blackhearts, or take one step towards finding them, until this past Day.
I think this all looks quite consistent with the hypothesis that Rysto is a Blackheart. The general-but-not-specific little helpful hints are a time-honored Scum tactic for looking more Townish, and a Blackheart in a three-faction game like this one could also build Town cred (while also helping his own team) by taking an active role in attempting to hunt Sinners. But a Blackheart would naturally not want to hurt Blackhearts more than was necessary.
There is no recourse if Pede is late tommorow, is there?
:dubious: What like if he’s 10 minutes late class is canceled?
No… we just wait until he posts the Dawn post and then carry on.
Thanks IS… I completely missed that I had thought we were still on Day 4. The “discussion” in what I now know is Night 4 makes more sense now.