The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)

Sounds good, Meeko.

So we have an extra 27 hours in this Night. I assume Day Five will still end on Sunday at noon. Is this right, Ped?

Oh, sorry I didn’t notice before:
Quoth Thing Fish:

My analysis shows peeker as likely non-Blackheart because I’m assuming a low number of Scum-on-Scum votes, and peeker has voted for lots of folks, and lots of folks have voted for peeker. So in almost all scenarios where peeker is Scum, multiples of those other people are Scum, too, contrary to assumption.

Seems like people are looking at Peeker. After Peeker, we have Rysto. As I write this, Rysto comes in just after Peeker in the number of posts department. I might be a bit fuzzy here, but, I believe, save for Peeker, that Rysto is the next living lurker.

Given our track record on lurkers this game, what should we do here?
Just an idea, because I’m tired of shutting down, thinking about my final hours here. I need to be more productive than I am in this game. :frowning:

Meeko, Inner Stickler and AllWalker have posted less than peeker and I.

Honestly, Meeko, I don’t really think there are any lurkers left. People post different amounts of varying quality, but everyone in the game at this point is playing, at least in my opinion.

That should be parsed as Meeko: Inner Stickler and AllWalker,

Obviously Meeko has posted more than I have.

I think Meeko has 427 posts, while the next highest is specialed, who had 195.

This is nothing for Meeko, who posted more than 800 posts in one week of Haggle. That’s right…just 7 days of trading and he posted 800 times.

The man is not human…he’s a machine!

Yeah, some folks have more than others, but everyone has something that can be analyzed, now.

Well, maybe peeker doesn’t have anything that can be analyzed, but whatever it is, he has plenty of it.

I’m not a machine, I’m an unemployed Human.

I wonder if someone isn’t try to ell me the wrong time. I mean, when day is over with.

It would be over the top scummy of them if they do.

Well, that’s interesting. I understand what you’re saying, but given that he hasn’t actually come all that close to being lynched, I am guessing that at least some of those votes going both ways may have been face-saving votes (especially when peeker first came in and was throwing votes around willy-nilly. IOW, I think this method may not work as well for** peeker** as it might for someone with a more, um, traditional approach to the game.

Good point here fish. We should never forget what someone has done in the past, when we thrust their play into future events.

I’m curious Peeker, what is your win loss ratio? Is their a method to this madness?

It would be a very foolish scum indeed who tried a lie that obvious. Straight from the horse’s mouth:

Jesus… I’ve lost all track of this game because it seems to have forgotten that Days and Nights end at some point. Are we on Day still? Did I miss something? I keep checking in to find a Dusk post and haven’t seen one…

This is why I prefer different threads for each Day and Night. Much easier to tell when the Day or Night ends. As it is now I drown in Meeko posts everytime I come here to see if I can locate a single scarce post by Pedescribe…

Dusk post is number 1828. We’re in Night 4 right now and it ends Wednesday at some time that I’ll be at work. I haven’t bothered to figure it out more exactly.

Since Rysto has jumped ahead so far in the latest version of my post-analysis numbers, I thought I’d look over his history (spoilered for space):

[spoiler]
360: Subs in for SirDirx. Favors O over E. Worried about Sinner tells, because you don’t know when changed sides. Doesn’t fear scum night-actions. Reminder that with three factions, anti-one scum faction not necessarily pro-town.

361: Won’t be able to participate much.

366: Votes O paul for scaremongering about what-ifs concerning O vs. E.

367: NETA

373: Game would be imbalanced if all lynch methods hurt Town

391: Criticizes paul’s theory that Town isn’t meant to win

415: Points out to paul that the Day ended

424: Points out to Meeko that staying alive isn’t the goal; team winning is

450: Agrees with special ed that Thing Fish might be gloating

452: Explains an acronym

456: Fluff

465: Encourages Meeko to speak his mind now, lest he be silenced

479: We can’t beat Sinners by executing, if Sinfected convert

480: NETA

507: Comments on Telcontar’s role

511: Telcontar appears to have been pure

526: Brief scenario counterexample to a Meeko question

529: Explanation of terminology

561: Sees no downside in Sinfected player claiming

568: Comments on vote-buy mechanic

571: Comments on Meeko’s reckoning of “overall score”

574: Comments on paul’s talk of Sinner recruitment

579: Executing Sinner same as ostracizing Town, from Sinner POV

590: Counterproductive to speculate too much on Telcontar’s death

597: Fluffy comment on pede’s removal of execution

652: Requests clarification of Sinner wincon

657: Rethinks idea of Sinfected claiming

686: Further comment on removal of execution

689: Yet more on removal of execution

723: Disbelieves paul’s roleclaim, votes paul

730: Clarifies talk of sinfection, suspects paul is a sinner

733: Further discussion of mechanics of sinffection

758: Quotes pede clarifying sinfection mechanics

768: Another question to pede about Sinfection

835: Clarification of terminology

836: NETA

853: Comment on board custom

873: Asks ed what a busybody is

883: Following Meeko’s speculation on roles (spec. Rev. Dimmesdale)

919: Reiterates vote for paul

942: How to generate trusted random lists

943: Reminder that paul might not be truthful

971: Comment on game setup

984: Lambasts Pinkies for not saying anything until 2 hours before end of Day

986: Corrected on when day ends

994: Explaining disinfection plan to Angel

1003: Clearing Angel up on what Day it is

1052: Reconsiders opinion of paul given Pinkies lynch

1055: Reminded that paul’s vote was bought, back to suspecting him

1063: Points Mahaloth to Day 2 final vote

1089: Learns that paul wasn’t sinner, after all

1107: pede has pulled traitor mason trick before

1127: Recommends to Meeko not to tell when protected

1167: Points out existence of doctor role, since Meeko protected

1212: Defends against Angel’s mistaken vote

1214: More defense

1236: Tells peeker about execute being removed

1246: Speaks out against edits, might catch Scum slips

1377: Thinks subs are least bad solution (after paul subs Angel)

1388: Tells Meeko about implications of mass claim

1399: Doesn’t think Angel can be impure, votes Thing Fish based on Day-1 “gloat”, smudge of Freudian

1402: Comment on game rules

1434: Explanation of terminology

1446: Clarifies reason for having voted paul

1460: Reminds paul he’s dead

1477: Reminds peeker it’s night (after peeker tried to vote)

1560: Mechanics of night actions

1581: Explanation of terminology (gastard)

1586: Further on gastard

1607: Compares paul to dotchan

1617: Discusses politician role in previous game

1625: Further on previous game with politician

1635: Suspects politician is Town, speculates on why BillMC was Sinfected

1640: Accuses paul3 of fishing

1646: Says that peeker being anti-Town isn’t enough reason to vote him, since it doesn’t make sense for Scum, either

1648: “Not helpful to town” is not equivalent to “helpful to scum”.

1698: Doesn’t make sense for peeker to jump on odd phrasing by Mahaloth

1766: Agrees with Chronos that Blackhearts are close to winning, sinner is effectively mislynch

1767: Asks peeker for specifics on Mahaloth

1792: Comments on Chronos’ analysis

1795: Further on Chronos’ analysis

1799: Further criticism of Chronos’ analysis

1809: Re-reads, criticizes Mahaloth for Day 1 behaviour

1810: NETA votes Mahaloth

1823: Explanation of forbidden thread

1833: Clarification of end of Day

1926: Recommends Meeko wait to post claim-order list

1944: Points out he’s not the lurkiest

1946: Clarification of above[/spoiler]
Analysis after the break

Rysto has had a total of 89 posts to this thread. Out of those, approximately a third are concerned with Sin and Sinners (how they work, who he suspects is a Sinner, etc.). Another third of his posts are miscellaneous little things, about the general workings of Mafia games, explanations of terminology, clarifications of rules, etc., that are at least superficially helpful in general, but don’t really help much in the specific. The final third of his posts are largely taken up by fluff, NETAs, discussion of the vote-buying mechanic (which apparently stung him pretty badly in a previous game), discussion of my analysis methods, etc. He doesn’t say one thing about Blackhearts, or take one step towards finding them, until this past Day.

I think this all looks quite consistent with the hypothesis that Rysto is a Blackheart. The general-but-not-specific little helpful hints are a time-honored Scum tactic for looking more Townish, and a Blackheart in a three-faction game like this one could also build Town cred (while also helping his own team) by taking an active role in attempting to hunt Sinners. But a Blackheart would naturally not want to hurt Blackhearts more than was necessary.

There is no recourse if Pede is late tommorow, is there?

:dubious: What like if he’s 10 minutes late class is canceled?
No… we just wait until he posts the Dawn post and then carry on.

Thanks IS… I completely missed that I had thought we were still on Day 4. :stuck_out_tongue: The “discussion” in what I now know is Night 4 makes more sense now.