Nice mental picture there. :dubious:
I’ve talked to people who had psychotic depersonalization syndrome. These folks really believe they’re dead. They could not be more convinced of it. And they do talk… so there you go. 
Yeah but they were missing random chunks of flesh, had a putrid smell coming off of them and have empty eye sockets? Because mine did.
Um… no. In community mental health, the nurse would catch on sooner or later.
You say he mischaracterized what you said; pretty please, with sugar on top, for the rest of us explain what you actually mean. If it wouldn’t too much trouble, sir.
And again, remember that you are under oath.
I made no assumptions. I experienced first-hand what I talked about. I still experience the spiritual world on an almost daily basis, so do millions of other people.
I am very consistent at being inconsistent, I follow the principles of spirit, but they don’t follow physical “laws.” Sorry, I didn’t make up the principles or how they work, I just experienced them. Religion and science are both wrong about life.
Wait, millions? How do you know?
Well, he’s talking to an liminal dead man right now, isn’t it?
Snark aside, why in the name are y’all engaging lekatt in this discussion? Do you enjoy his woo-woo?
Hi, I laughed when I read this. So I shall comply as best I can.
When you die you return to a formless mass of pure conscious energy. That was what you were like before you took control of a physical body. Now if a “dead” mass of energy, having lost his body, wants to contact a “live” mass of energy, having still a body, it is done with thought. There is a meeting of thought between the two and the result is spelled out by the "live’ one on the board.
Thoughts are very powerful.
I swear this is the essential truth on a stack of sacred texts.
There are over 12 million people here in the US that have had near death experiences. The result of a survey. Look it’s ok if you think that’s not right. You have been taught to think all spiritual stuff can be explained as natural occurrences. You haven’t doubted that yet, and began to research it. So what else could you think.
Actually, I was asking on the basis that it probably would be a survey. Could you link me to it? Because generally surveys themselves nowadays are the result of scientific enquiry, which would rather make them void for you.
Can’t you see the assumptions in what you’re talking about? You are experiencing things you either don’t understand or can’t explain, and you’re assuming that they are connected to a spirit world (which in turn, you’re assuming actually exists).
I’ll agree that millions of people have experienced a cold draft and assumed it was a ghost, or remembered the one prophetic dream that turned out be correct (forgetting the dozens or hundreds that didn’t), or misunderstood the laws of probability (If you predict a plane crash in the next month, you’re highly likely to be correct. If you make the same prediction every month, you’re guaranteed to eventually be correct). I’d guess that tens of millions of people have let themselves be fooled by astrologers, mediums, and other scam artists.
But that’s not evidence of the existence of a spirit world.
I REALLy hope you edit this in an negating prefix quickly. 
IMHO… and it’s a HO… (that didn’t sound very good, did it?) Two things are being spoken about interchangeably here that really aren’t interchangeable. A NDE is not the same thing as the dead contacting the living, telepathy, monks levitating 12 feet off the ground, ouija boards, and so on,and on, and on, and I think it’s very unfortunate when the two categories get conflated together. In fact, Ray Moody’s original work on NDE’s back in the 1970’s noted that before all the media attention, it was very rare for people to become more interested in paranormal topics after a NDE. I don’t discount NDE’s as personal experiences, actually. Not at all. (Although 12 million sounds WAY too high to me…) But a NDE is not a proof text. A NDE should not be used as proof “of” anything-- that’s my opinion, but it’s something I feel strongly about.
I’m sorry, Skald, but I reread what you quoted, and I don’t get what you’re saying. Unless you’re saying that some kind of plane isn’t likely to crash somewhere in the world in the next month.
I will just answer all in one post. The basic problem is you don’t know what I am talking about, you don’t know spiritual things. Especially you don’t know about near death experiences and all the research being done. But I don’t fault any of you. Can’t expect you to understand what you have never seen or read about in any depth. So I will link a video that describes what a near death experience consists of and what the experiencers feel. I will retire after this unless anyone really wishes to learn about them.
http://www.aleroy.com/blog/?p=1400
If anyone wants to learn more about the research currently being done regarding neurological correlates of NDE’s and mystical states, I highly recommend a simple method: go to http://www.pubmed.gov and type in near AND death AND experience. Also try mystical AND experience. Fascinating stuff in peer-reviewed journals, including double-blind studies. But they’re not trying to prove anything as such, and they really have nothing to say about paranormal experiences. Now, to be completely fair, I guess that’s not to say that someone can’t read these articles and then decide that this evidence is applicable to the paranormal in some way. But even in that case, this is how evidence-based practice actually works-- it’s necessary to start with good quality evidence. And that’s my .02 cents’ worth. 
If anyone wants to learn more about the research currently being done regarding neurological correlates of NDE’s and mystical states, I highly recommend a simple method: go to http://www.pubmed.gov and type in near AND death AND experience. Also try mystical AND experience. Fascinating stuff in peer-reviewed journals, including single-blind studies (unfortunately, double-blind really isn’t possible in this context! Subjects have to know what they’re thinking about.) But the authors not trying to prove anything as such, and they really have nothing to say about paranormal experiences. Now, to be completely fair, I guess that’s not to say that someone can’t read these articles and then decide that this evidence is applicable to the paranormal in some way. But even in that case, this is how evidence-based practice actually works-- it’s necessary to start with good quality evidence. And that’s my .02 cents’ worth.
“Psychotic depersonalization syndrome?”
Could they not have coined at least a slightly friendlier-sounding term? Like “false deadness disorder” or something? “Psychotic depersonalization syndrome” sounds like a fictional delusion that a screenwriter made up because they couldn’t think of anything more insane-sounding.
If the patient has to accept the fact that they suffer from “psychotic depersonalization syndrome,” I could see how there might be a strong incentive for them to just keep believing they’re dead. It sounds healthier.
Well, this has nothing to do with near death experiences. Never heard of an experiencer who still thought he was dead. Just misdirection. If you want to find out what happens you need to read the accounts of real experiencers. Those without the benefit of the experience can only guess or assume what they are, while the real experiencers know what they are. By the way, there is no neurological correlation of anything that has to do with consciousness. No physical memory, thoughts, emotions and such have ever been isolated in the brain. There is brain activity, what this activity is differs from one researcher to another. It is never been proven that this activity is really consciousness. We don’t even know what consciousness is, or how it works.
Here is a better theory
Well, nobody would ever CALL a client that to their face, I sincerely hope… “Hey, Psychotic depersonalization syndrome sufferer! Get over here. Time for meds. ;)”
Depersonalization is the primary diagnosis, and there’s a lot of research on it right now (Daphne Simeon among others). A “regular” depersonalization syndrome statement would be “I know this sounds absolutely crazy, but I feel exactly like I’m dead.” Intact reality testing, you see. But neither of them have anything to do with NDE’s. The NDE research (of the type that ends up on search engines like PubMed, PsychInfo, and Cochrane, that is) really is fascinating, because it’s quantifiable.