The Enterprise VS. Star-Destroyer

Also, let’s consider each ship’s very dangerous superweapon:

The Enterprise: The Kirk Smirk and the ripped shirt (twofer!)

Star Destroyer: Vader’s Force Choke (Even works while teleconferencing!)

Galactica: The Adama Death Glare

Agreed.

Video game and comic creators always feel compelled to one-up each other and we wind up with power bloat. I wasn’t alive when the OT came out but I have a feeling that Vader was meant to be seen as the ultimate badass. But compared to what we see in games and comics, he’s a complete wuss.

Inertial Dampers and rocks.

Seriously, doesn’t it seems like whenever a panel blows out in a Star Trek ship, there are rocks everywhere? WTF, where are they coming from??

It doesn’t matter if hyperspace is faster than warp speed or not. If a Star Destroyer goes into hyperspace, game over, and the Enterprise controls whatever it is they are fighting about. The Enterprise can go into warp and keep on fighting with improved maneuverability. If we are talking about a stern chase I don’t know who would win - though they’d soon lose track of each other. It does not appear that you can look outside of hyperspace very well, while you can in warp.

ST shields are clearly designed to stop transporters. I don’t think it is a given that shields designed for a totally different purpose would stop them - though we may as well assume they do, since otherwise, game over.

As far as speed goes, I’m talking tactical speed. If a Star Destroyer is defending a position, going into hyperspace and running is not going to help much, even if it is much faster than warp. The Enterprise has far better tactical maneuverability.

I did, but it is seriously over complicated. If Kirk, Spock and McCoy can beam to the bridge of a Star Destroyer, why not beam a nuke to the bridge? The Darth Vader would not be in two, but in many pieces.

A Star Destroyer has one important defensive feature, I must admit. There don’t seem to be any women on it, so Kirk can’t seduce any. If, however, there is a waitress somewhere below decks, they can kiss their ass goodbye.

This here is an excellent point. Then again, they could always just clonk a couple guys over the head and steal their uniforms if there aren’t any women about. That is a valid strategy in both Star Trek AND Star Wars.

Lensman vs Soft Weapon

Per the Star Wars RPG, a Star Destroyer isn’t a destroyer - it’s a cruiser.

Dude, we’re on an internet message board. How often can we really go without discussing this?

Which brings us back to my previous point: In certain settings, “Destroyer” seems to be used for a class of super-powerful warship that outmatches even cruisers. The only examples that come to mind off the top of my head are Star Wars (with the Imperial Class Star Destroyer Cruisers :D) and Babylon 5, with the Omega, Warlock, and Victory class destroyers that the humans use (though nobody except the humans seem inclined to call their biggest ships Destroyers. They’re just Adjective Cruisers, be they Heavy, Star, or Battle Cruisers.)

It used to bug me, but then I remembered that for a time, the US Navy had Frigates that had as much firepower as other nations’ Cruisers (until they redesignated them all to actually be cruisers.), and that frigates in the 1700s were basically what we’d call cruisers or destroyers today, and figured I just wouldn’t stress about what some fictional person called what type of ship as long as they were at least internally consistent.

size matters not. xwing vs death star?

that said, in the real world? a star destroyer would crush the enterprise.

To be fair, in the real world, neither ship would exist… :smiley:

By the time the war started, the school was no longer in operation. Jake was actually working for Starfleet as a reporter and Nog was an officer.

I think he means that if a Star Destroyer were to land on top of Enterprise it would rip both supports for the propulsion units from the secondary hull and cause severe damage to the bridge and primary hull… leaving bits of broken plastic everywhere.:smiley:

Of course, to do so, they’d risk compromising the warp core’s containment fields, causing a Warp Core Breach (which is Technobabble for “HOLYCRAPRUNLIKEYOUVENEVERRUNBEFORE!”):smiley:

[David Attenborough]
In fact, it is neither a star, nor a destroyer. It bears its young live, and being a mammal, produces milk. It is in fact most closely related to the this little fellow here…the racoon.
[/David Attenborough]

I dunno. Anyone know which model was bigger?

The AMT/Ertl Imperial Star Destroyer model was IIRC about 15" long, about 3" shorter than the standard AMT/Ertl Constitution-class USS Enterprise.

However, you’re not taking into account the difference in scales. The Enterprise model was about 1/650 and the Star Destroyer was billed as 1/4500 or something like that. :slight_smile:

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