I’m watching start of season 3 right now, they’re both still kids. Sure, there’s no *declared *war, but they just got attacked on a field trip, Bajor’s colony got destroyed, the *Odyssey *just got blown up and the *Defiant *'s ass kicked. Seems like perfect child-raising environment to me, yeah.
One final…datum.
Lego makes an entire (brilliant) Star Wars line. They totally ignore Trek. I trust the Danes.
That wasn’t war yet, that was what they call “heightened tensions”
You are thinking of frigates.
Destroyers began as torpedo boat destroyers. As American frigates during the Napoleonic wars, they just kept getting bigger and bigger. 
Maybe five minutes. Ten minutes, tops.
This reliance on direct observation and logic instead of acceptance of the fictional settings interferes with my Zen contemplative state.
Bah. The Federation calls in a retrofitted Giant Space Doobiewhich swallows up all the Imperial craft like so many stems and seeds.
Star destroyers were a dime a dozen in the Star Wars Universe. They were peopled with faceless nobodys, except when Vader would occaisionally comandeer one. The Enterprise contained all the main characters of the Star Trek Universe. Therefore plot considerations demand the the Enterprise win.
Star Trek slot machine: 5 different adventures/levels
Star Wars slot machines: 5 different machines
Vegas has it a tie.
But if they did we should remember that SW was “a long time ago” and ST is set in our future. Therefore, when it comes around in a few hundred years, the Enterprise has to do battle with a pile of rust and dust or the descendants of the original crews who have either evolved or devolved.
(I am leaving out all forms of time travel from any franchise simply for my own convenience.)
A Star Destroyer is neither a star nor a destroyer. Discuss amooangst yooaselves.
A serious question amidst a hilarious thread: Did Star Destroyers possess tractor beam technology? Or was that only specific to the Death Star? I would think this would give it a big tactical advantage.
Oh boy, here comes the Enterprise/Star Destroyer slash fic.
We never see them used on Star Destroyers in the movies (although a case can be made that Leia’s ship in the first movie was drawn up into the Star Destroyer by a tractor beam), but IIRC there is a line in ESB when the aluminum falcon is fleeing Bespin and being chased by the Sooper Star Destroyer, and Replaceable Captain gives an order to prepare the tractor beams and have boarding parties set their weapons on stun.
According to the RPGs and the EU novels, yes, they do have them. They also have ion cannons, which are supposed to disable a ship’s electronics.
IMO: based upon on-screen evidence, and some SWAGs, a Star Destroyer has the capability to smear a fleet of Enterprises all over the Universe, and could probably reduce the entire Federation to cinders in a matter of weeks, but are crewed by such incompetent boobs that they’re not much use for anything better than being giant targets for plucky heroes.
ETA: Win to Enterprise/Federation
I hate to interject, but the Galactica is not in the same class as a Star Destroyer or the Enterprise. No shields. Autocannons, rail guns and missles instead of energy weapons. Intentionally primitive avionics and minimal automation. It’s like a WW I Dreadnaught versus a WW II Iowa class battleship or a modern Ticonderoga missle cruiser.
The only question is whether the Star Destroyer or the Enterprise is the modern missle cruiser or antiquated battleship.
Being a neutral party, it’s hard for me to say. The damage rating of phasers vs turbolasers is irrelevant IMHO. What’s more powerful? The USS Constitution’s entire broadside of cannons or the 40mm Bofors anti-aircraft gun on the USS Iowa battleship? Using just those weapons, which ship would you rather be on?
The air wing of the Star Destroyer is essentially useless. TIE fighters have no shields and would simply get picked off as fast as the Enterprise (or one of it’s shielded shuttles) could shoot it’s phasers.
Replicators and transporters would also seem to imply a more advanced technology. And the Enterprise is clearly more menuverable than your typical Star Wars capital ship.
OTOH, hyperspace technology seems far superior to warp technology in plain ole just getting you there. And the Star Destroyer is the product of a thousands of years old spacefaring civilization.
And the Star Destroyers weapons can fire in all directions, so menuevering doesn’t really add much benefit for the Enterprise.
I’m pretty much assuming that turbolasers and phasers/ photon torpedos will destroy the unshielded opposing ship just as easily. Although the Enterprise just sort of seems more fragile than a Star Destroyer.
I guess it comes down to who can deplete the other ships shields first.
Well, the Federation sure as hell hasn’t heard of fuses or circuit breakers.
Herein lies the rub. It could come down to who is commanding each of these vessels, and what kind of grasp of strategy and tactics they have.
Typical Imperial commanders seem to rely more on brute force than critical thinking.
Example? Okay:
The linked article is silly and pointless.
It just concedes the stand up fight on size alone, not looking at weapons or capabilities at all. That’s like saying size is all that matters when comparing a 17th Century unarmored wooden sailing ship of the line with 120 smoothbore cannon and carronades against a WWII era PT boat.
That thing has torpedos, a 40mm Bofors gun, and rocket launchers. Now I’m not saying that the Enterprise has that level of technological advantage, but the article does not even address the question, just assumes the answer. Assuming the answer = not good.
Instead it resorts to pulling obscure, single plot resolution devices out of the history file assuming that the Enterprise crew has access to the equipment and the understanding to replicate those feats. Like splitting Vader into good and bad halfs.
Which is preposterously silly.
If you want to debate the fight, at least engage the debate, don’t handwave around it with silliness.
Has anyone suggested, “Kirk, if he’s prepared” yet?
Dude, we’re debating the relative power of two totally made-up spaceships, from two totally different movie franchises, on a message board, on the internet.
Silly would be a step up.
That’s been one of my “Favorites” on YouTube for a while now. I particularly love the expression on Chewie’s face as they’re flying away. The look of stunned horror is priceless.
And personally, being a former tank crewman, I think Tarkin’s grasp of tactics and critical thinking/problem solving skills are just fine in that instance. Since Yavin IV is a moon of a gas giant, making the gas-giant go buh-bye is probably just as effective as blowing up the moon.
There’s nothing wrong with a brute-force approach to problem solving when the object is to blow the ever-loving shit out of someting. I stand by my assertion that, based upon on-screen evidence, the Star Destroyer is the significantly more potent vessel, but the Enterprise/Federation wins based upon observed crew capablities.