the EVIL 9mm!!!

One media article referred to the police using “machine guns,” but I’m fairly certain what I saw were either AR-15s or M16s.

I don’t think the police have automatic weapons, but it is possible. The M16A2 has a 3-round burst setting. The AR-15 is simply the civilian model of the M16.

I’m sure the SWAT teams have either automatic weapons or at least burst capability. I saw one LEO with an MP5.

I believe the term you are looking for is “s00per-deadly assault weapons”.

Coming up on CNN: “The 9mm pistol: How easy to get? How easy to use?”

I have yet to see any evidence that his pistols were high capacity. The news has been talking about high capacity, semi automatic, and automatic weapons, and talking about the Assault Weapons ban. I don’t know why, except they have their own agenda. I would like to see if the murderer had obeyed all weapons laws, and what possible laws could have prevented him from committing the murders. If there is a gun show loophole that he utilized, it should be eliminated. I have heard no mentions of a gun show loophole, mind you. He could have purchased everything legally… or illegally.

Yeah, but the beautiful thing about the baby Glocks is it also accepts the higher capacity magazines like 10, 13, 15, and even 29 rounds. They just don’t fit flush.
I carry the .40 Glock on duty, but for off-duty/CCW I love my KAHR PM9 9mm. In a small pistol the 9 is easier to control than a 40, and the Kahr is smaller, easier to conceal that a Glock.

Glock 19 and a Walther P22, according to CNN.

I think I want a gun like that when I get my CCW permit. I want a gun I can carry on me, not in a purse or anything that could be taken off me. I love, love, love my G17, but it’s my range/home defense gun. The 9mm is perfect for me. My husband’s baby Glock is a fine weapon, as long as it doesn’t have the .357 SIG barrel in it (though I have fired it that way and could again in a pinch,) but it’s still just a tad too large to carry on my person.

We need some kind of broad, all encompassing law against killing individuals and/or large groups of people, whether a gun or bomb or something else is used. We could call the act… um, how about (and I’m just tossing ideas out) “Murder”. Yeah, and then we could put people in prison for the rest of their lives for this “murder” thing instead of having a hundred laws against owning particular shapes of steel. :slight_smile:

If the possibility of life imprisonment or execution (via injection or a cop with good aim) doesn’t stop people, I guess we’ll have to put up another strongly worded sign “No firearms allowed on this property, under penalty of” and quote the relevant statute. That’ll slow 'em down.

I love my Glock 27 .40 cal., and always qualified with it. But I needed something extra small for pocket carry and it was a tad too big and I didn’t want to go to a .32 or .380… Kahr is giving Glock a run for it’s money. I love the PM9 so much I’m considering switching to their full size TP-9 for duty use.

My wife made me a wallet style holster using a nylon pocket protector she bought on EBAY. She unstitched the front pocket and the loops underneth. She kept the cylinder loop on the far left as it perfectly fits an ASP Palm Defender pepper spray. The holster fits in my front or rear pocket perfectly and just looks like a wallet. Nobody is the wiser and I don’t have to wear a fanny pack or worry about someone seeing a holster under my shirt or jacket.

I think CNN should hire John Stossel :rolleyes: Like that would ever happen!

I get the feeling they mean “another round” as in “another turn,” or “another group,” as you’d say that some negotiators held “another round of talks”. The language is slippery that way.

Serials filed off, too. Hum. Odd choice of gun, the Walther.

This guy was planning something for a long time if he filed the serials. Chain could have been impromptu foresight. Serials takes time.

“Round” has different meanings in different contexts, obviously. If I tell my bartender I will buy a round of drinks, and then insist on paying for only 1 drink, he will hurt me. The fact that the reporter meant something else does not excuse their ignorance or butchery of the language.

As for the serials, you are assuming that:

  1. It actually takes a long time to apply a Dremel tool or file to a serial number. Even assuming a slow file (not an automatic, dangerous tool like a Dremel :slight_smile: ), I can’t imagine it taking more than a few minutes per gun.

  2. That this guy is the one who filed off the serial numbers. If he bought stolen guns, whoever he bought them from may have done it.

According to ABCnews.com:

(bolding mine)

No idea why he would file the serial numbers off.

Or, why, having filed the serials, would keep the receipt(s).

He might have thought he could get away with it. He managed to get away from the first scene. Maybe he thought that filing off the SNs would prevent them from being traced back to him if he managed to escape.

Maybe he thought that he could avoid being traced AND get his money back…

I’m just pissed at the news for the ‘evil 9MM’, Bobo. So far, excepting the filed serial numbers, everything he did right up to the point he started shooting people looks legal. Furthermore, the Assault Weapons Ban looks like it wouldn’t have stopped him, so even proposed weapons laws wouldn’t have done a damn thing.

I’m asking all pro-gun control people, ‘What would have stopped this guy?’ Go on, tell me.