Oh, I think they are a very good team. In fact, I think that if they win the Superbowl, they’ll have indisputable claim to being a dynasty team. I bring up the asterisk bit as a joke, a lighthearted poke at the sore spot of Patriots fans (and oddly, apparently, some non-fans as well).
I don’t really care if they go undefeated. For me, there are two Patriot games that could matter - the one next weekend, and a potential one against the Steelers in the post season.
The fact is, however, that in the midst of being a very good team on the path to securing a dynasty, they felt the need to cheat.
Oh, I agree about that, but consider this: what set Bart Scott off was the ref saying to Rolle “Shut up and play, boy.”. Rolle is a black man. The ref told a black man “Shut up, boy”. Now do you see what Scott flipped out? Not trying to justify his loosing his cool, but boy, do I understand it.
And Dave, here is the post that you never thought you’d see, Somebody’s gotta beat these whiny prima donna motherfuckers, and it looks like you’re the only ones with a chance to do so, so for next week, and next week only…
GO STEELERS!
Was that the same black ref they were arguing with after the play? The one that the numbnuts had to be restrained from physically attacking after giving up the points? Sounds like a complete bullshit attempt at excusing extremely unprofessional behavior that arguably cost the Ravens a chance at winning the game.
Samari Rolle kept his cool and played four quarters of professional football. Bart Scott played 58 minutes at the pro level and then 2 minutes of sulky middle-school playground ball… for an insult that was directed at someone else. If you’re being paid seven figures to do a job – any job – you can keep a lid on your anger for another two minutes. Scott’s outburst was inexcusable.
Apparently, they are talking about Phil McKinnely, who is a black man himself.
Now, as a white guy I don’t pretend to have the first idea of what it really means for one older black man to refer to another younger black man as “boy”, but my ignorant impression of it is that it is not something that one typically goes apeshit over. I do see that weirddave and the Baltimore media are conveniently leaving that out to give the impression that a white guy called a black guy “boy.”
I live four blocks from the stadium. This is only my second or third season following the team, but I am a fan, and I’m with you – four or five individuals (including Billick) each made amateur-level mistakes, any one of which could legitimately be said to be a game-losing error. You don’t see Brady throwing a bean-ball at a ref after a bad call, do you? The Pats get their share of tough calls, and they suck it up and play good technical football with a cool passion that should be the envy of other teams.
I am with Weirddave on one issue: I’ll be cheering for the Steelers next week.
“He called me a boy several times,” Rolle said. “After Bart got the first one (penalty) I said, ‘Man, you never played football before, and you’re going to call the game like this?’ And he was like, ‘Shut up, boy, and play, boy.’ He just kept saying it. He’ll be hearing from my lawyer.”
Wow! Pathetic. “He’ll be hearing from my lawyer.”? So, he hurls an insult at the ref, questions his calling of the game, and then wants to sue because he called him “boy.” Turns out McKinnely played seven seasons in the NFL. Perhaps he was inspired to call him “boy” to emphasize his ignorance of history as well as his disrespectful nature.
Of course, Rolle pales in comparison to Scott, who cost his team 30 yards in penalties because a black ref called a teammate “boy.”
The Ravens are simply a pathetic, imploding team. I wonder if M & Teabag Stadium will still be standing at the end of the season?
Don’t celebrate yet. Hentor is doing a wonderful job of reminding me that the thing I hate most about the Steelers is their loudmouth obnoxious fans. I might change my mind yet.
Oh noes! Whatever will Steeler nation do without Weirddave rooting on one weekend for the enemy of his enemy?
Don’t you have any response to the issues I raised about what you asked us to consider earlier? Do you want to clarify at all just what it is about the situation with Scott that makes you understand his behavior so well?
Nobody has ever won three in a row, so I think you just said there has never been a dynasty in the NFL, with the possible exception of the 70s Steelers, who won four titles in six seasons. Or maybe the 49ers of the 80s, who won four in nine years. If the Pats win this year (ugh) that would be four in seven.
What response do you need Hentor? I came into Door’s annual Shitsburgh circlejerk to say “Hey, I’ll be rooting for you guys next week”. Doors responded appropriately, but you feel the need to beat your pathetic sunken chest and posture wildly. If you reread what I posted, I said yes, we could have used those yards lost to Scott’s penalties on the following kickoff and no, I wasn’t trying to justify his actions, but I did understand them, and here is why. Calling a black man boy is a term of extreme disrespect, whether the person doing the name calling is white or black. Doing so right on the heels of several questionable calls* which have kept New England in the game again and again, especially when you are one of the people in a position of authority making those calls, is doubly insulting. No, Scott shouldn’t have lost his cool, he’s being paid to be a professional, but if you don’t understand his reaction to a racial epithet in that situation, then you’re a fool. But hey, you’ve already identified yourself as a Stiller fan, so I’m just being redundant.
Any one of the calls can be reasonably defended on an individual basis, but taken together there is a cumulative impression that the refs are trying to subtly influence the game, particularly if it’s a call that hasn’t been made all game(Winborne’s hold) or a TD that wasn’t (Gaffney’s juggling act).
I can honestly say that my only exposure to this happening (an older black man calling a younger black man “boy” is on the bus a few times, in the movies and on television. I don’t ever recall seeing the recipient express any negative reaction, let alone flipping out or threatening to call his lawyer. Where do you come by your understanding of the meaning, such that you can understand the mentality of a player on your favored team flipping out and potentially costing his team the game? When did it become a “racial epithet” when used in that context? Anyone?
I think this has now exceeded the most pathetic, whining, nonsensical childish excuse I’ve ever, ever heard of.
So each call is correct, but the sum total is not. That’s pretty fascinating.
