At the start of the episode, there was blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment when Barry visited Supergirl. Apparently he jumped back at the exact moment he left, since no one at S.T.A.R. Labs was able to detect that he had left. It’s odd that Barry didn’t say anything about the trip, since this episode was about finding a way back to Earth-2. You’d think that he’d at least mention to Cisco that he could spontaneously jump universes even without breaches or vibes, something that even Zoom isn’t able to do. Plus, you know, blonde superhero that can fly.
I thought there was a lot to like about the episode. Caitlin and Iris’ heart-to-heart didn’t completely suck. For once, Wally actually drove the plot (even if only playing the role of damsel in distress) rather than being an irrelevant afterthought. Teddy Sears was previously spot-on as Jay Garrick, now he’s spot-on as the psychotic Hunter Zolomon.
It all fell apart, though, at the ending. I thought they’d have a plan like Catlin’s incorporating a tracer compound in Trajectory’s dose of Velocity-9. But they played it completely straight, and seemed quite surprised at Zoom’s sudden but inevitable betrayal.
The moment Flash took off Zoom’s mask and stepped back like it was all over, I thought: What? They think he’s just going to lay there defeated? Shouldn’t Flash be binding him in super high-tension cable or something?
Okay, I’m sort of confused. Let’s see if I’ve got this straight: Earth 2 Hunter Zolomon has horrible childhood and grows up to be a serial killer. Then while being given electroshock therapy the particle accelerator explodes and he gains super speed. He escapes, becomes the Earth 2 Flash, and then the Earth 2 Zoom. When and why did he start taking Trajectory 9?
And yeah, Barry should have said something about Supergirl, for the reasons Terminus Est said.
Glaring plot hole of the episode - Wells said that everyone on Earth 2 knew Hunter Zolomon’s face. How is it that on Earth 2, no one looked at Flash (who runs around sans mask there) and noticed that he looks uncannily like the escaped serial killer?
It’s still not clear to me how Jay Garrick got killed. They compared it to Thrawne appearing earlier this season but that made sense to me while this does not. We were seeing Thrawne earlier in his life time, before he went further back in time and replaced Wells. But with Jay, it didn’t make sense. Was he implying that at some point in (his) future he will come to Earth 1 (several months ago) and pretend to be Jay and then die by his own hand and that’s how he dies? That doesn’t make sense.
I was excited when we saw Barry disappear for a split second and come back but I also thought he would at least mention the other universe other than asking how long he was gone.
Was I the only one who thought the end was a ruse? I thought Barry was faking losing his speed and the whole set up was going to be like the end of Superman II where they were really going to steal Zoom’s power with the injection.
In Hunter Zolomon’s mugshot, he looked like the Unabomber - long straggly hair and grizzly beard. I presume that’s the image the public is familiar with. Jay Garrick’s image was much more clean cut; he looked like a completely different person. And that superhero helmet makes for a great disguise, you know.
Zolomon got an earlier version of himself. As long as he was in the timestream, killing that copy wouldn’t affect his own existence. Or somesuch nonsense.
Any ideas regarding who is in the mask? Zoom said something along the lines of “You wouldn’t believe me if I told you.” Then he mentioned something about family which made me think it was Barry’s Dad. Does that fit within the time line of when we last saw him?
If Jay Garrick is Hunter Zolomon from the past does this mean he was faking not having the speed force? I thought Caitlin had performed tests.
I’m thinking that the guy in the mask is Hunter Zolomon from Earth 1; Zoom nabbed him to steal his speed, and then he’s hanging onto him in case he needs to fake his own death, and to keep people from looking for his doppelganger on Earth 1. Don’t we just have his word for it that Earth 1 Zolomon is dead?
Just thought of a term to describe a basically superfluous male character who gets into trouble like Wally, picking up on the term “damsel in distress”. It would be “Dunsel in distress”.
I think the guy in the Iron Mask is the real (for Earth 2) Jay Garrick and he is either already a speedster or will become one. This story-line has to end with Earth 2 having a hero named Jay Garrick/The Flash, I think.
Stupid fkn cnut, what part of not negotiating with terrorists does he not get?
Give his speed to Zoom to save Wally and thousands are doomed to die. Dead set fkn stupid.
There’s gotta be a come back from this, but that scene where you stand over the supposedly vanquished hero/villain and gloat while they get up and fuck you up is straight out of the 50’s.
Can anyone explain Zoom’s “You can’t stop the darkness.” with his eyes going black and dark aura around him? Is this a reference to Darkseid who manifested in much the same way with Lionel Luthor on Smallville?
I too think Wally is the man in the iron mask and that, due to last-minute, save-the-world shenanigans, Earth-1 Wally will end up a speedster as well. Otherwise, the character is simply useless.
Last time at the end of the episode they shook hands and he left and said to call him if they needed him again. He wasn’t a permanent part of the team, just on friendly terms rather than evil.