Confusing.
I like the guy who plays Zoom, and it’s always been hard believing he’s so evil.
Time remnants explained: The first time I ran across this was in a book by Robert Silverberg called “Up the Line”. (They weren’t called that, of course.) Here’s the way it worked. Time traveler tries to prevent man from leaving, fails. Time traveler has brilliant idea. “I’ll go back five minutes and then there’ll be two of me to stop him.” Man gets away anyway. The guy who jumped back says to his earlier self: “You have to go back five minutes now to become me.” Earlier self says: “What for? The brilliant idea obviously didn’t work.” By the time they finish arguing about it the five minutes has passed and it’s too late anyway.
Now at this juncture, one of two things can happen. Either later self disappears because the decision that created him never occurred, or he remains as a time remnant.
You pays your money and takes your choice because there is a shortage of experimental data on the subject.
I’d buy that – but wouldn’t the Time Remnant always be a little older? Wouldn’t he always be the one who goes back and makes himself into a Time Remnant now working alongside the other guy?
Because the show seems to do the opposite of that: someone goes back in time, and yoinks his younger self out of the past to serve as a disposable Time Remnant here in the present. Have I got that right?
Yeah, they shoulda called it a rift generator.
If you haven’t already seen it, The Flashpoint Paradox is an animated movie adaptation of the Flashpoint comic book series. It’s an excellent movie in its own right, and should give you a taste of what we expect to see now that TV-Barry has royally fucked up the timeline. It should be available on Netflix.
Obvious observation: The Flash that stopped Barry from saving his mom the first time is the one who saved her and had to go back to fix what he fucked up.
Except they don’t have Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg or Batman available to use. Supergirl could fill in for Superman, and Green Arrow could do the Batman role, but I don’t know who they could use for Aquaman or Wonder Woman or Cyborg.
Legends of Tomorrow crossovers, featuring Rip’s team + the upcoming Justice Society characters?
If rough analogs are needed, Firestorm can be your Cyborg, Black/White Canary as Wonder Woman, and Hourman as Aquaman? Close enough, I suppose 
Except one of the big plot points was Aquaman and Atlantis warring against the surface world in general and Wonder Woman’s Amazonians in particular. I guess White Canary and the League of Shadows could take the place of the Amazonians (though not well) but Hourman ain’t gonna be waging war against the surface world.
Maybe the Time Masters get peeved at the various speedsters messing with the time lines, and it’s them who “wage war” against Flash & allies :shrug:
Weaker sauce: you could have Atlanteans and Amazonians sans on-screen Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
Or … maybe the CW writers won’t bother to stay all that close to the comics’ Flashpoint storyline.
I’m guessing that we haven’t seen the end of Zoom. He is probably going to be back as the Black Flash.
They probably won’t…but there’s got to be some sort of apocalyptic situation going on to convince Barry he fucked up and make him go back and undo it. Maybe the Kryptonians from Supergirl’s reality are warring against Earth? I dunno.
I like the ideas you guys are throwing out, but I think you’re all waaaaaaaay overestimating the TV show’s budget. I’d prefer the “Kryptonian” idea or the " Firestorm can be your Cyborg, Black/White Canary as Wonder Woman, and Hourman as Aquaman? " idea, but I suspect what we’re gonna get is simply a crapsack world. Joe will be a crooked cop (or a bum, or a con-man), Cisco will be a punk, Caitlyn will still be super-boring (because that’s a constant), we’ll see shanty towns, a lot of muggings…that sort of thing. There will be a lot of whining from Barry about “But what about HOPE? Isn’t there any more HOPE?”
What will be interesting will be to see if this has any effect on the show Arrow (it should). If Henry isn’t framed for Nora’s murder, and Joe isn’t in the picture, Barry doesn’t become a cop and doesn’t help Arrow out in those episodes.
Your right about the budget constraints. One big hint, though, is that we know there will be crossovers aplenty in the upcoming season for the four CW DC properties (or else the commercials have all been an awful tease 
). The actors are already contracted, so the guest-starring turns shouldn’t be extra overhead.
Thinking harder about it … an established character like Ray Palmer/The Atom is a better “Aquaman” than someone brand-new like Rex Tyler/Hourman (though Patrick Adams looks ready to blow up in that role). Ray is already kind of the same straight-stick guy that Aquaman was in the SuperFriends cartoons
I don’t really expect them to be doing Atlanteans vs Amazons when the show comes back, though that would be awesome. I do expect to see some royally fucked up shit next season. I agree that there should be repercussions on Arrow. The Legends are probably immune, due to timey-wimey things.
That was the movie he mentioned! I don’t think he’s looked for it on Netflix yet, though.
We were both like, “Why, Barry? WHY???”
I doubt this will effect Arrow too much, outside of the eventual crossover episode. Although maybe this will be the return of Snart?
Anybody who plays World of Warcraft knows that this is a magnataur:
Damnit, Jay’s not from Earth 3, that’s the evil Earth with Ultraman and Owlman… Fucking TV makers…
[sup][sub]I may not actually be quite as angry as I appear.[/sub][/sup]
If they do Flashpoint it will be involving the characters we already know. Those are the ones they have the rights to.