The Florida insiders get face-planted

A poll has come out that puts Gillum ahead.

Take with a huge lump of salt though since this was done by a Democratic polling firm not to mention it is early and polls can be dicey. Still, as a data point, it suggests Gillum is not being outright dismissed and his lead with independents…even if half that…is huge and important for the general election.

Actually, Rick Scott doesn’t seem to have anything to fear from heavy Latino turnout. Nelson leads him by only 2-4 among Latino voters.

PPP is a Democratic firm, but also a very high quality pollster.

The irony here is that the iphone is a device that turns its purchasers into a commodity to be consumed by corporations. Using labels like Capitalism and Socialism in 2018 is a bit like clinging to Newtonian physics.

Has there ever been a black elected Governor in the South, even one?

(Recall that Pinckney B.S. Pinchback, Governor of Louisiana for five weeks during Reconstruction was elected Lieut. Governor and stepped up only while Gov. Warmoth was undergoing impeachment trial.)

I’m trying to recoup the losses from my last bet here, so will bet that American racism prevails. If the stakes are to be .sig’s let me first check whether 2-line sigs are allowed here.

Yeah, not taking that one.

Douglas Wilder, Governor of Virginia 90-94.

He might lose for reasons other than race. If you are going to bet that “racism prevails”, you’ll have to prove that his loss was due to racism, not political affiliation or some other factor. That would be a meaningless bet.

Wouldn’t the racist Desantis winning be enough proof that “racism prevails”?

:smack: I knew of Governor Wilder but was so busy Googling for 19th-century Governors that I overlooked him.

That’s our John ! If I bet on a football game and write “because Ryan Tannehill will prevail” the bet is on even if Tannehill doesn’t start and depends only on the game’s final score. The “because” line(*) is just commentary. Some bettors may “IF the quarterback” but that has to be explicit.

And let me save Mr. Mace a click and disclaim right now that Yes, I’m aware I didn’t explicitly write “because” in my post.

It’s not easy to imagine what they might be, though.

Wow, the perfect politician. Amazing!

Oh wait. He was endorsed by Bernie Sanders. Isn’t that supposed to be the kiss of death?

Paging dalej42! Is this true?!?

I’m not sure exactly how much credit to give Sanders for the win, but I’ll give him some. Every little bit helps in a 3 (major) candidate primary race held at the end of August. It does look like Black turnout certainly boosted Gillum, quite similar to Stacey Abrams.

A lesson for Bernie: Note how Gwen Graham immediately endorsed Gillum rather than pouting, whining about conspiracies, and making demands for her support.

Gillum seems quite interesting. I’m going to need to study up to see if the role of Mayor of Tallahassee has changed since I lived there. It used to be a ‘weak’ Mayor role with mainly ceremonial power.

I am hopeful that the combination of Gillum and Nelson can feed off each other. Nelson is one of the most vulnerable Democrats and in a very expensive state. Scott has endless money and will get all the dark PAC money he needs to throw everything at Nelson and try to help the Republicans keep the Senate.

^Agree with all this.

Rick Scott is a plausible answer to the oft-asked question, ‘what would happen to the US if a smart Trump made it to the Presidency?’ Scott has a history of corruption (Medicare fraud and more*), and though no one calls him a genius, he’s definitely got quite a few IQ points on Trump. And he’s definitely using the Senate as a steppingstone to, you know, Ultimate Power.

So, yes: Democrats need a big turnout, and there’s hope that people who might not normally vote in a midterm, will come out for Gillum–and vote for Nelson, too.

PolitiFact | Rick Scott 'oversaw the largest Medicare fraud' in U.S. history, Florida Democratic Party says

Rated “mostly true” because Scott’s fraud wasn’t limited just to Medicare:

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Served his time, right? Paid his debt to society?

Nelson’s Latino outreach has been abysmally late and underwhelming. Also, the Hispanic vote, which includes Cuban, is fundamentally different and more moderate or Republican-friendly than the Hispanic vote in California or even more friendly than in other red states like Texas or Arizona. Nelson’s in trouble. Normally he’d have incumbency and fundraising as an advantage, but Rick Scott knows how to win races.

Florida is a lot more than “South Alabama.” The state has more than one good reason to feel burned by the anti-environmentalist tendencies of the modern GOP. The morale is high on the “Resistance” side. And the progressives are emboldened by Doug Jones’s win in 'Bama.

I think you’re wrong on this one.

The FBI investigation into Tallahassee corruption is going to tarnish Gillum’s gubernatorial campaign, no matter how many times he says they have assured him he is not a target of the investigation.

DeSantis sayshe didn’t know he was a moderator or even a member of a Facebook page devoted to deplorability.

Okay. If you say so, Ron.

I’m sure you had no contact with the people sending these robocalls, either. And that it will never happen again.