As many have said, the GOP’s main problem is that they CREATED the underinformed, frightened people. For the past 7 years, the GOP has bent over backwards to prove that the government is disfunctional and useless. They did a VERY good job at this - from the inside. For the past 7 years, the GOP has beat the drum of how SCARY everything is and how TERRIBLE the country is.
Their own supporters now are convinced that the country is going to hell, and the politicians (all of them) created the mess. Good job GOP.
It’s just that now, someone has come along to exploit the very thing that they made.
I realize you may have an extension that changes Trump to Drumpf per John Oliver. However, it’s changing text in quotes and that breaks the rules. Please disable it for the purpose of use on the SDMB, please.
Or just drop the Drumpf thing. I don’t know about other people, but when I see someone use ‘clever’ spellings of an opponents name, or call the other side ‘Dhimmicrats’ or ‘Rethuglicans’, I mentally deduct about 20 points from my starting estimation of their IQ, and I start with an assumption that they are hard-core partisans who are not amenable to debate.
In other words, stuff like that doesn’t help your argument. Also, ‘Drumpf’? I assume that’s a play on words of some sort, but I certainly don’t get it. If it’s a John Oliver in-joke, you’re just making yourself harder to understand for anyone who doesn’t watch the show.
Trump’s grandpa or great grandpa supposedly actually changed the family name from Drumpf. Also, SlackerInc is an unabashed hardcore partisan who is somewhat amenable to debate.
Drumpf is Trump’s family name before they changed it - upon immigration? I can’t recall - and means the same thing in German as it does in English (eg a trump card). John Oliver hypothesizes that some of his appeal comes from having such a strong sounding name. Which is a coincidence, but sort of in line with Trump’s word usage.
You’re not wrong, though. It’s pretty childish.
Although in his particular case, it may actually drive him nuts, as he responds very poorly to mockery and criticism.
I don’t think that people understand who they are dealing with here. This isn’t a usual political season whereJon Stewart and company can get their way by pummeling opponents with sophomoric snark. This is Trump we are talking about, he has already been roasted and came away stronger than ever. He has at least a +6 saving throw to this kind of nonsense, and only takes 1/4 damage when he fails!
Of course that works on Republican game sets. Once out of that dungeon he has to fight the dragons from all other regions were they are not impressed with him so far.
Why do people think this, when he’s only gotten about a third of the Republican vote so far, and is one of the most deeply disliked people in the country?
Trump continuously polls 10 - 15 points higher than the next Republican and other than Carson’s 15 minutes, he’s never really been threatened in national polls. Just when you think he’s really done himself in, his numbers get better. When other candidates have dropped out, no one was propelled high enough to close the gap.
Trump’s odds of winning the nomination on predictit are 72%, actually a little lower than before Super Tuesday. More significantly, all of his opposition has pretty much no chance. It’s either Trump or a contested convention, at which point possibly none of the declared candidates will be the nominee.
Although funnily enough, I’ve held a Kasich contract at 3 cents since before NH and now it’s 4 cents. Makes some sense, few have more connections in the party than he does, so a brokered convention is right up his alley.
I’ve found some name changes in my own family. Malcomson to Makemson. Whitesides to Whitsitt. Le Maistre to Lemasters. Coghlin to Conklin. My real last name–none of your business. (And Burke–from de Burgh in Irish-Norman days, a long time ago.)
Drumpf was a good joke for about 90 minutes. There are much better reasons to ridicule The Donald…
The origin, (via John Oliver), is that Trump juvenilely attacked Jon Stewart for having changed is name from Jonathan Leibowitz (actually, Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz), and later lying that he had never done so, insisting that Stewart should have been proud of his name.
The Drumpf joke is juvenile, but it was not pure invention.
I don’t think the intention was to ridicule Trump so much as to troll him — Oliver et al want to get under his skin with the next “short-fingered vulgarian” meme and tie the candidate up in a pointless and protracted media feud. So far, Trump seems not to be taking the bait.
I just saw the Trump thing on John Oliver’s show, and I think I owe SlackerInc a bit of an apology. I totally get where it’s coming from now. Not sure I think it’s a good way to make a point, but I understand it. Sorry for being so pissy about it.
And man, Oliver tore Trump apart. It was a thing of beauty.
Even that’s sort of nonsensical since Donald Trump didn’t change his name, it was changed over generations before he was born. My surname went through a couple adventures between the motherland and today as well but I’m sticking with what’s on my birth certificate. Not that I think anyone should be attacked for changing their name, of course – that’s a separate issue.
As I said before, the “Drumpf” thing reminds me too much of “Barry Soetoro!” to be funny. It just makes me cringe that supposedly right-minded people are descending to news site comment section style tactics.
