See post #114.
Someone understands.
Beastly Rotter, learn to read. It helps.
Please stick to topics you know the something about. Alternatively, please list the factors which distinguish an employee from an independent contractor under Missouri law.
Are you an idiot? The guy said he wants to round up all pedos, even the ones who never did anything wrong, and put them in prison for life.
No sir. You are the fucking stupid one.
It sounds to me that he was charged as a juvenile to only get 2 years. That statute could either be a class B felony 5-10 years or a class A felony 10-30 years. Can’t tell from that website.
It was a Class B felony, which is worth 5-15 years today. However, the sentencing statute has been amended twice since 1990 so there’s no telling what it was back then. Missouri statute annotations don’t include deleted text.
There could be quite a lot going on with that relationship. You mentioned (I think) that this girl has a child that she does not have custody of.
Pedophiles have been known to groom a parent, even establish a relationship with one - even MARRY one - to gain access to the child. I have personal knowledge of such a situation (a friend… her now-ex-husband will be in jail for a very long time).
Other than that: let the guy finish his job. The tricky thing will be if he wants to use you as a reference: how do you handle a phone call from another prospective client: “Yeah - did great work on the flooring but, um, if you got any kids don’t hire him”.
You are, actually.
Depending on the laws in your jurisdiction, if you and the lady did some fun stuff together, and her parents were displeased, they could have ruined your life. We’ve heard of things like this including one recent local situation, mentioned by a professional who was involved with the family (no confidentiality violated, no names or other identifying info, just “mad mother, ruined boyfriend”). IIRC in that situation, the girl was 17 and the boy was 18.
What state?
Virginia, I believe, and Wikipedia bears this out:
Reading more of that article, there are certain acts which are perfectly legal among consenting adults, but not among consenting minors (e.g. if a couple of 16 year olds give each other blowjobs).
In South Carolina, the 17 year old could get in trouble with his 16 year old girlfriend. Ditto South Dakota. I haven’t looked at any other states.
So, under certain circumstances underaged kids could have PIV sex but blowjobs are straight out? What a well thought out law.
There had to have been more to it than that. I find that one VERY hard to believe.
Don’t have a heart attack, Rand Rover, but for once I’m incomplete agreement with you. I MIGHT see letting him finish the job at the very least, if it were a small, one-day only thing, but that’s it. I’d probably give some bullshit about finding a relative who could do something cheaper or something.
(And you know what a “liberal douche” I am!) 
Did it state specifically that this case was a class B? Because reading the statute it states it could be either A or B depending on circumstances.
I am sitting here with two kids of my own who currently has a contractor working on her home. He shows up on time, is good at his job and does it for a reasonable rate.
He’s also a one-man show and seems to be pretty available.
So, I put myself in the OP’s shoes by thinking what I would do if I found out he had committed this heinous crime 22 years ago.
My knee-jerk reaction was to just say, ‘who gives a fuck?’ I thought that was a bit too fast a reaction so I thought about it some more.
I am pretty sure that:
- I would ask him about the particulars especially if he was on parole so I could talk to his parole officer.
- I would certainly let him complete the two jobs in my home he was working on.
- I would hire him for future projects.
22 years is a long time. 17 is a young age.
Aside: the whole thread has me wondering if 6 was really a typo for 16 on the report.
That’s about what you do: “Yes, he’s been a reliable worker and he does good work, but he does have a criminal record. Don’t put him on a jobsite near kids, and don’t put him in a situation where he might be tempted to do something he shouldn’t. I haven’t had a problem with him, that’s why I still hire him, but I do keep an eye on him when he’s doing work for me.” Then let the other person make their own decision.
I used to work in construction. Ex-cons are not uncommon. Some of them were still very bad boys. Some of them really did seem to have mended their ways. The general contractor I worked for had a couple guys he’d hire for really unpleasant and/or hazardous work that he simply would not put on the same crew he had women on, or in situations where they might be alone with women or children. Other guys weren’t a problem, their problems were in the past and they could be relied on to behave.
(He also had a client where, despite the guy having no criminal history at all, he wouldn’t send either one of his woman workers or a young man under 21 to the guy’s home to do work unless there was at least one other person along, usually himself. As someone else noted, not all the bad guys have been caught or have an official record.)
There are other examples of laws with rather bizarre outcomes.
For example, this case, where a guy from Indianapolis was convicted of child exploitation and child pornography for taking nude pictures of a seventeen-year-old girl.
Indiana’s age of consent is 16, so the guy could legally have had sex with the girl, but taking photos of her naked landed him a felony conviction.
In another case, which we discussed on this board, a 16-year-old girl was charged with child porn for taking pictures of two other girls, one of whom was 16 and the other 19.
As i said in the thread, the age of consent in Rhode Island is also 16, so it would have been legal for these girls to indulge in a three-way carpet-munching dildo-fest, but it was illegal for them to take nude pictures of one another.
6 would be more consistent with the statute.
I would find another handyman. It’s my job to track kid touchers not to employ them.
Yep, those are pretty bad too.
No, it’s Class B or Class C - and automatically B if the victim is 14 or younger.
Where would you have him work? Are sex offenders not entitled to make a living? Would you rather support them with the taxpayer dollar so they can sit at home instead of contributing to society?