The He-Man Woman Hater's Club

As is mine (just got recruited in as the new Scoutmaster, actually). This latest nonsense will not go over well with the old crotchety Scouters I’m familiar with. They are largely conservative, right-wing types. But they love Scouting, and don’t care too much about girls being in. And they really love the military.

I wonder if this is just a trial balloon. I haven’t seen a single person on defend this policy change.

Welcome to the club!

I vaguely understand performative masculinity

But how the ever-living fuck can one person be so confidently bad at both “performative” and “masculinity” simultaneously?

When I was in Scouting (1957 to 1962) we sold light bulbs. Door to door. Wasn’t that fun.

We also did Christmas trees in the season, much more profitable, but we couldn’t afford good security and one season all the stock was stolen at night. I don’t think we did trees again after that.

As to the topic of this thread, this business is so pathetic it makes me ashamed somehow. These people are in a position to speak for the country, but what they say is childish, silly and trivial. People in other countries have a low enough opinion of this country already, now I can’t imagine what they think now (and don’t want to be told, thanks very much).

Libertarians are too prone to advocacy for freedoms for everyone.

Good right-wingers know that’s wrong. The correct position: freedom for me but not for thee.

Likewise for the popcorn. :slight_smile:

I joined around the time Trail’s End was launched and have a vague memory of trying to sell the stuff door to door.

It was really good popcorn, though.

We offered the customer white or yellow popcorn, and were given training based on the philosophy of Elmer “don’t sell the steak: sell the sizzle” Wheeler.

The ‘scout masters’ at the troop my kid attended seemed nice enough, put on a good show. “Ken” (not his real name) was quite the groomer. He kept trying to take my son to Newfoundland, Canada to go camping with him.

Alone.

I thought that I must be wrong; he was married and had kids. That said I wasn’t wrong… and that his wife didn’t object was very Ghislane of her. I always thought that it was weird that he brought his daughter to all the meetings and that she never put on any uniform or tried to earn any merit badges even though it was family scouting. She’d just drift around from table to table, sniffing at the boys like they were fresh meat.

Finally my kid got tired of Scouting too & moved on (thank Chulthu. When he went camping with the ‘entire troop’, he always came home with at least $100 of his camping gear missing. They should have called it ‘Troop Grifter’.)

As for the girl, I wonder where she got the idea that sniffing and hovering around the Scouts trying to earn merit badges when she had no legitimate reason to be hovering around them was acceptable but then it hit me: she learned it from her Dad.

“Pedos in The Scouts? Oh, you must be mistaken.” /s

I wasn’t aware the military was tied in with the Scouting thing. All I knew is, one Saturday we went on trash pickup detail and brought all that was collected to a soldier who was presumably going to truck it away to wherever it goes. I wondered if there was any more cooperation between the service and the Scouting thing, but never cared enough to find out. That Saturday was just an ad hoc event.

“Kept trying”? As in, more than once? As in, you didn’t get your son far away from him at the first incident, and report him to the authorities?

What does this say about your parenting?

As a sister in green emerita, when I heard about the Boy Scouts’ exclusion of known LGBTQ+ people, I wondered what the Girl Scouts’ stance was on that. The answer? They don’t have one. They do have a rule that unless an event is explicitly females-only, males may attend as long as there is at least one adult woman on site.

Is Mr. Kegbreath aware that alcohol does a real number on testosterone levels?

Yeesht. How old was the daughter?!?

Not really tied in, per se.

More along the lines of friendly and supportive. For example, it’s pretty common for Texas troops to visit Fort Hood/Cavazos and get to see and do some pretty neat stuff with the Army units there.

Or if you’re going somewhere and there’s a military base nearby, they’ll often allow your troop to stay on base for free.

Directly, they provide a bunch of support for the National Jamboree in W. Virginia every four years and for a while it was held at Fort AP Hill in VA. It’s a win-win for both organizations - the military gets experience organizing and managing huge tent cities and the scouts get something more or less professionally run.

And it’s probably also a boon in recruiting, to be friendly with a group of boys approaching enlistment age.

I would say probably a half dozen of the guys I knew were looking for an appointment to the Air Force Academy and had an Eagle badge. At least a couple of them got one. A couple others are still military–again, I think all Air Force–25 years later.