The host of ESPN First Take proved this morning she has Oatmeal for Brains

Why do you think the Broncos will win? Do you feel cheated that this woman thinks another team has a better chance of winning?

I don’t watch football and even I know the Pats have a Goliath-like reputation.

And I’m always surprised when I see people acting like “defending champions” have some sort of edge over other teams. I heard a broadcaster say it about Kansas City (MLB) the other day. “Well, they are the defending champions, so you can’t count them out!” I bet I can!

But shouldn’t they have a edge if the broncos has the same record as the pats and haven;t lost a game since 2015?

I haven’t paid any attention to football yet this season, but aren’t the Pats 3-0 using a backup quarterback? And haven’t the Pats been a threat to dominate the league for several years, now?

It sounds like a reasonable question to me, but maybe that’s just the Oatmeal talking.

I’ll ask in a different way. How do you objectively determine the ‘favorite’ in an NFL game? Do you do it differently from seemingly everyone else who apparently uses the numbers from the oddsmakers?

Does the Ghost of Super Bowls Past come down and guide their field goals or something?

Good thing you changed the channel. Who knows what kind of nonsense they talked after that.

she apologized at 107:17 for how she phrased the question

They already beat the Pats is my point way things are going to the Pats will be back in Denver again in January

Damn, now what do I do with all these torches and pitchforks?

They beat the Pats? Gosh, I guess the Pats are special! Their losses don’t show up in their record!

Fire sale.

Until Tom Brady and Belechick can’t figure out how to win in Denver, the Broncos are the SB favorite coming out the AFC

They appear to be your favorite. This means remarkably little to people who do not live between your ears.

They should be everyone’s favorite, their defense doesn’t allow many TD’s

Well, they ain’t.

Who would be your favored out of the AFC?? Pats?

Yes. Maybe my previous link was too cleverly disguised: Super Bowl Odds 2025 - Betting on Super Bowl LIX

Well I go by what my eyes tell me not Vegas

This is why Vegas exists in the first place. :smiley:

I see that Vegas is selling these 3-0 and 2-1 teams with rookie QB’s. And buying Brady.