Just want to point out that I resent commie labels being attached to free people. I’m not part of a permanent fixed “class”. As far as I’m concerned its the same as calling a black person “nigger”.
So, go ahead and say it to my 6’5" 250 pound work-hardened face, please.
There are people who work harder than you do, who have little chance at upward mobility. So maybe your work-hardened face can use the brain behind it to understand the issues we’re talking about.
Or is the air too thin way up there?
You’re better than this, 'luce.
Not much better, but better.
Who said socio-economic classes were permanently fixed ? Well, the *classes *are, the people in them aren’t. Technically-speaking. In practical fact, yeah, they kinda are.
No, I tell a lie, there’s plenty of downwards mobility 
Nowhere in the quote did it say anything about class being fixed. It just said “working classes”, which, unless you live in Cloudcuckooland, will always exist. Doesn’t mean you will always be a member of said class, but if you move up, presumably said aristocrat would have no problem with you using the rails.
Still, you sure are a manly internet tough guy, I’ll give you that. Unless your post was all sarcastic and I’ve been whooshed. So hard to tell, what with Poe’s Law and all.
Well, he does have a 250 pound face. That’s more elephantly than manly IMHO.
Interesting for purposes of psychoanalysis, surely. The guy feels threatened by the political equivalent of invisible pink unicorns. His bogeyman is:
[QUOTE=Charles Koch]
Collectivists (those who stand for government control of the means of production and how people live their lives)
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That’s a political philosophy known as “communism” and there are surely at least a few hundred, maybe even a few thousand, people in the U.S.A. at present who hold that political philosophy. As a political force, they’re nonexistent. But Koch feels they have him on the ropes:
[QUOTE=Charles Koch]
Collectivists…promise heaven but deliver hell. For them, the promised end justifies the means.
Instead of encouraging free and open debate, collectivists strive to discredit and intimidate opponents. They engage in character assassination. (I should know, as the almost daily target of their attacks.) … Such tactics are the antithesis of what is required for a free society—and a telltale sign that the collectivists do not have good answers.
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Yep, this tiny faction, invisible to pretty much the entire American body politic, is supposedly threatening all of our freedoms. Time to fit you for a nice white jacket, Chuck.
It looks like they’ve already got the politicos in Oklahoma to do their bidding.
So, the Kochs are against government intrustion into the free market unless it’s done to discourage consumer use of solar power and keep them dependant on power generated by fossil fuels?
I can’t speak for the KB’s, but if a business can only survive with government subsidies, then it shouldn’t be in business. The government shouldn’t interfere with competition and pick who it thinks should be the economic winners. The market should decide that.
Many businesses have only the government for customers, you know, and the arrangement can’t happen until government picks a contractor. The usual procedure, AIUI, is to give the contract to the lowest bidder . . . which might not always be a wise choice.
It’s different when the government is a party in the market, such as an employer or a purchaser of goods like military equipment. But in the case where subsidies are being given to producers of solar power, it’s cronyism or corporate welfare.
That proves nothing but that cronyism/corporate welfare is not always necessarily a bad thing, which I hope we all knew already.
[QUOTE=Omar Little]
But in the case where subsidies are being given to producers of solar power, it’s cronyism or corporate welfare.
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Also, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Kochs and most of the other backers of the anti-solar legislation are heavily into fossil fuel. They’re just using the government as a tool to snuff out a rival.
Documentary (updated) by Robert Greenwald: Koch Brothers Exposed: 2014 Edition. Covers 11 things the Koch brothers don’t want you to know.
