The Marx Brothers vs. The Three Stooges

Cite Please? I honestly don’t recall Satire in the Stooges, maybe I missed it.

Was it in a movie or a short?
Please give a little more detail.

Jim

I can’t even find your Prior Post in this thread, that is weird.

I think the Marx’s humor is more smart-alecky, which turns some people off. I like both the Stooges and the Marxes, but think the Marx’s humor goes a little deeper. But there are parts of their best movies that just grind to a halt, like when Harpo picks up a harp. The bright spots are brilliant, though.

Sorry…wrong thread. :slight_smile: But the short films “You Natzy Spy” and “I’ll Never Heil Again” were sendups of Nazi Germany (and Moe Howard beat Chaplain by several months to be the first actor to play Hitler in film.)

Their feature films don’t work as feature films because they were turned into musicals. They were verging on light opera, whosever idea that was, it sucked. I don’t object to “Lydia” and “He Lost His Shirt”–but those subplots with two people singing soulfully to each other, bleh. (And yeah, usually it was the whole subplot, not just the songs, although the songs were the most notably beastly things about them.) Also Harpo needed to be on a somewhat shorter leash IMO. Somebody earlier listed two excruciating examples of non-opera Harpo-led musical numbers. Yeah, those. Cut! The harp bits–cut! or at least keep it upbeat and in character with the zany Harpo character, those are okay. Not funny–but okay.

But the question was which made you laugh more, not which was better.

I agree.

The Stooges are not funny. I’d rather watch them than I Love Lucy and I hate that show.

I think men in general have a Three Stooges Gene inside of them.

Get poked in the eye…funny! why is this? Discuss.

I have to say that the Marx brothers were pure geniuses in their day.

Their jokes and innuendos are still gold (GOLD!) all these years later.

I used to love the Stooges - but then I hit 12. Their slapstick got very repetitive, and they made a lot more shorts than they had ideas for.

The Paramount Marx movies got ahead of the audience. Duck Soup was way ahead of its time. Remember, this was done in 1933, so its attack on militarism was way ahead of Chaplin’s or the Stooges. I do remember a Stooges short that was a duplicate of the famous scene in The Great Dictator. It might have been released first, being a short, but I somehow suspect Chaplin filmed first.

When the Marxes moved to MGM they became more popular if less pure.

Anyhow, S J Perelman wrote for the Marxes - enough said.

Because it’s somebody else’s eye! DUH!

Well to paraphrase Homer on “Football in the Groin”,

Slapstick is funny but in a violent way and as you know men are somewhat violent by nature. :wink:

Of course Slapstick with Wit is better, so give me the Marx Brothers, Abbot & Costello or Bugs Bunny.

Jim

Harold Lloyd totally pwnes the Marx Brothers.

And I like the Stooges better than Groucho, Karlo, Zippo, Bobo, etc-o. But who gives a damn? People have different ideas about what’s funny.

Marxes beat Stooges.

Abbott and Costello beat Laurel and Hardy.

Harold Lloyd kicks Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin’s collective asses.

But there’s no shame in being second best.

Ridiculous. If it weren’t for James Agee, no one would remember Lloyd (not to mention Langdon). He’d be as well known as Raymond Griffith (and, from what I’ve seen, Griffith could give Lloyd a run for his money). He was nowhere in Chaplin or Keaton’s league (no one was), or even as good as W.C. Fields or Mae West (apples to oranges, I know).

I agree with all 3 of your comparisons.

The Lloyd pick is probably the controversial one, but the daredevil aspect to his high jinks won me over. Keaton was funny and Chaplin was funny but neither has ever really caught my attention. Lloyd I would stop to watch when I happen upon him.

Again this is all just opinion, I understand in theory the merits of Chaplin, but if he doesn’t entertain me, he doesn’t entertain me.

If we take the entire list I would actually go:

  1. Abbott and Costello
  2. Marx Brothers
  3. Harold Lloyd
  4. Stooges
    5-7. The rest as I don’t find any especially funny.

Jim

Safety Last is the funniest silent feature ever. The General, Gold Rush, Modern Times… piffle. Piffle, I say!

The Stooges. The Marxes are funny in small doses, but their movies drag on too long and have too many lame-ass musical numbers and too much of Harpo-the-wannabe-rapist chasing girls. Buster Keaton is funnier than either and also funnier than Lloyd, Chaplin, or Arbuckle.

And piffle back to you. Chaplin had much more depth; Keaton was funnier.

Best silent feature comedies:

  1. City Lights
  2. The General
  3. Sherlock, Jr.
  4. Modern Times
  5. The Gold Rush
  6. Safety Last
  7. The Navigator
  8. The Circus
  9. Tramp Tramp Tramp

Best comedians (chronologically):

  1. Charlie Chaplin
  2. Buster Keaton
  3. W. C. Fields
  4. Mae West
  5. Marx Brothers
  6. Jacques Tati
  7. Woody Allen

Both A&C and L&H are abominable. Unfunny, unpleasant, just shitty.

Comedy before 1950:

  1. Lloyd
  2. Keaton
  3. W.C. Fields
  4. Stooges
  5. Marx Bros.

After 1950 it is less act-based and more individual movie-based. I like Lemon, McClaine, Sellers, Ueki, Morse, and many others based on their movie(s).

Leaving aside our other point of disagreement, your list seems chronologically… compact. Shouldn’t Buster precede Chaplin, since you have City Lights (1931) above Sherlock Jr and the General? (1924, 1927) And the Marxes were already up to Horse Feathers by the time Ms. West debuted.

As funny a lady as Mae West was, I think her body of work was too brief before the Hayes Code took the bite out of her bits.

Boy would I have liked to take a bite out of her bits.