This is because you are still buying the propaganda that emasculation is the goal of moving to a more equitable society or that it is required, which is not true.
The majority of the research seems to show that increased gender equality actually has the opposite effect, while still helping reduce the negative effects.
Huh?
And I have often mentioned my wish for equality; it’s just that people seem to take umbrage when I point out that equality needs to apply to men too.
You have presented a thinly veiled desire for the domination of women and a conviction that the current system oppresses men in favor of women, or to maintain that system out of fear of change.
The pro-feminist role acknowledges that men are also victims but you are demanding recognition that men are equally or more victimized.
Historically and currently oppressed groups will need immediate and additional assistance to help break down the existing power structure and replace it with an equitable state where protection for all, despite sex is the state.
A large portion of the reason we are forced to frame this work in relation to gender is due to that power imbalance, and it is that power imbalance that needs to be addressed for all people.
Actively opposing and attempting to dismantle services and supports put in place to protect women or by advocating for equal policies with negative outcomes protects the causative power imbalance.
the rhetoric of hatred and victimization is not useful for moving to a gender neutral end. If it wasn’t for that existing toxic power structure gender in laws like domestic violence wouldn’t even need to reference women rights and could just be a generic “domestic violence”
The BS that has been sold to you is blocking progress to exactly the endpoint you claim to desire.
I’m sorry you feel attacked. That’s not my intention.
But you’re not attacking the argument. You’re nitpicking this paper.
Which is a perfect example of the now weaponized concept of “fragility”, which directly describes this very common response.
Quartz, hopefully you can take the time to review and reflect here and realize that this is not a personal attack. In fact we are giving you far more credit than you are giving yourself. You are not being blamed because you are a man, you had no choice in that matter. But only you can break this unproductive cycle and realize that addressing a power imbalance that does favor men is not an attack on you because you are man.
I must confess I find that difficult to believe: your words demonstrate otherwise.
No, I’m criticising it. I am pointing out where it is lacking. Hell, it even admits it’s lacking.
Bullshit. Utter and complete bullshit.
I have repeatedly demonstrated that in certain areas - notably accusations by women against men - that is in fact the current state of affairs.
Again, bullshit.
This form of backlash is not new, and while you will dismiss this paper as it was written by a feminist, the same flawed arguments happened during the push for women’s suffrage.
This is not a novel claim, nor is it a new response, nor is it any less flawed than in the past.
The fact that you are calling out to rape myths yet again demonstrates this.
Yep…get a grip false accusations are not much different than other violent crimes, your fetish with being a victim is the only reason you can’t see that.
How do you square that drivel with this post of mine?
Because of the priors, which include a plea about unequal rights and HPV vaccinations and referencing new advances.
You may claim that you are for equality, but you are fighting against it by playing the tit-for-tat victim game.
As I have repeatedly demonstrated, they are not rape myths. Famous false accusations include the Duke case, the Hamiltons, and so on.
And those are just the famous ones. You might find this thread on Quora of interest. It’s by ordinary people with real names no press melee.
And just recently in the news a woman has been jailed for a false claim of rape.
Men do suffer discrimination. I want equality; so should you.
Men do suffer LESS discrimination, and no you don’t want equality, you want mutual bad results.
You want all benefits handed out 1:1 and bitch about programs that are directed at solving the issue which cannot happen at a 1:1 manor.
In other words you are being selfish and not considering the greater societal good.
No cherry picking or special pleading will make rape myths true, the fact that I said false accusations are similar to the rates of other crimes is not disproved by the fact that there are cases.
I know it won’t change your acceptance of rape myths but…
And lets be fucking crystal clear, women who also believe the same BS you are pushing are the ones that often make false claims or at least move violent claims.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tim_Grant2/publication/40498342_Rape_myth_in_true_and_false_rape_allegations/links/546f461d0cf24af340c07f77/Rape-myth-in-true-and-false-rape-allegations.pdf
Ok.
That women have suffered discrimination is incontrovertible; that men currently do is also incontrovertible.
Wrong. Your insisting on this lie does not make it any less of a lie.
By focusing on the myth that men are often falsely blamed, you are part of the problem you claim you are trying to solve and the effect is the same.
Men are more likely to be raped than be falsely accused of rape, yet you are still blaming the victims, even men.
Why are you persisting in lying? I do not say that men are often falsely blamed. I have given evidence that it happens, not that it often happens. There is no good evidence as to the rate of false accusations - various studies have reported wildly different rates - but best estimates are indeed small (2% to 8%). But nowhere near zero. You do your position a disservice by not accepting facts.
My message has been clear, as is yours, you will error on letting tens of thousands of rapists go free over something here you admit is rare, because it wouldn’t be “fair” to those poor victimized men to have their day in court…
You are the one who is lying, and that is to yourself.
And that is the most toxic kind of lies. “There is no person as blind as they who will not see, nor as deaf as they who will not hear.” To me the problem is on how do we prevent people from becoming willfully deaf, because once they’re there it’s so hard to make them hear.