April 4th 2024-Try singing the opening of the song Do you know the muffin man then sing the opening of London Bridge is falling down. For example:Do you know the muffin man,London Bridge is falling down
Do they go together or not?
Hello.
(This is not really a great debate !)
This works for MANY song pairs (if they’re sung in the same key 
).
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What’s the significance of the date? Is this a debate?
Moved from GD to the Cafe as not a great debate and about music.
Threads about music and the arts generally go into the Cafe Society category.
“Because I could not stop for Death” by Emily Dickinson can be sang to the tune of the Gilligan’s Island theme song.
…;.or The Yellow Rose of Texas.
Or It Came Upon the Midnight Clear.
And sometimes they are exactly the same…only to be realized an embarrassing number of years after learning both.
cf. The Alphabet Song vs. Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
Which becomes “Hatikvah” a few variations later:
(3:57)
Does anyone know how Hatikvah and Smetena’s Moldau happen to have the same main theme?
“Baa Baa Black Sheep”, too.
Apparently it’s an old folk tune that made its way separately to Smetana (via Mozart) and to Israel’s government:
…the Hatikvah melody goes back 600 years to a Sefardi prayer for dew, Birkat Ha’tal. After the Inquisition, as Jews scattered through Europe, the melody found its way to Italy, where it became a popular love song, “Fugi, Fugi, Amore Mio” (Flee, flee, my love!). It evolved into a Romanian gypsy folk song, “Cart and Oxen;” then, a 17-year-old immigrant to Palestine from Romania, Shmuel Cohen, used the “Cart and Oxen” tune for the poem, Hatikvah. And it quickly caught on.
What is the connection with Die Moldau? 12-year-old Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart heard the original folk tune in Italy, where he had been sent to study, and incorporated it into one of his compositions. Mozart took the music to Vienna, then to Prague. There, Smetana picked it up.
The versions that I’m familiar with are not the same. I tried to find a sample but the ones on Wiki aren’t matching with my memory either. The sample of MM sounds like Twinkle Twinkle… and the one for LB isn’t recognizable (to me).
Speaking of “London Bridge” soundalikes:
Re: the OP, in my mind, MM and LB have different melodies.
Not sure how well these links will work, but these seem to represent how I know the songs to go. Even if you can’t read music, you can tell that the notes move in different directions and have different values. Just look at the first measure.
The OP just says that they go together (ie don’t sound too discordant when played
simultaneously), not that they’re the same tune.
The link in the second post (this) has both these tunes played together.
I had the same thought once about “Edelweiss” and “Silent Night”, and tried to match them to each other as accompaniment, but gave up when I realized they were different lengths.
It is a debate I’m just new to this website
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