My experience is pretty much the exact opposite–cooking odors never quite penetrated the constant nicotine cloud.
“Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin’ nose?”
Why would I need documentary proof?
I had a friend complain once that she could smell the cigarette smoke from the car ahead of her on the freeway.
Wow.
I smoke cigars. Never smoked a cigarette. I smoke in my own house. Never when friends bring children over. I have a fan on me whenever I smoke so as not to bother my nonsmoking friends.
Anybody have a problem with how I do things?
You don’t, but people who pass laws banning smoking in private residences might.
Lets look at this logically. this article is about second hand smoke. There is no smoke permeating the walls of an apartment. You may smell some minute aromatic molecule of second hand smoke but it’s so far removed from the actual smoke as to demand proof it’s harmful before shoving the hand of government up people’s arse.
There is no consensus in a government mandate. We do not live in a democracy.
We live in a representative democracy. Same thing.
The politicians who passed the law don’t know this. I at least applied a little common sense.
I’m asking you and everybody else reading this to consider the direction we’re taking as a society. There is literally no end to government intrusion into our live. The very least we should demand is PROOF. show me a study that the molecules of odor we smell are dangerous. After that, show me the logic behind a government legislating the behavior of private individuals when this is at best a housing construction code issue.
No, it’s not even remotely close.
Not even figuratively.
I had a friend who bitches when the next door neighbors smoke on their porch. She says that it’s so bad that she has to put a towel over her nose in her own living room!!!*the horrors!
So, cigarette smoke from 100 feet away directs itself at her house, permeates the outer siding, insulation, and drywall, travels across her living room, but she then defeats the smell with a towel? Maybe that’s the ticket. Burqas for all non-smokers..
Radiation exposure is treated in the regulations as if it worked this way, but there’s actually no evidence for it in practice. If anything, there’s (weak) evidence that very low levels are completely safe.
really. at what point will it end?
First they came for our cigarets, then trans-fats, large cups of soda…
tell me, where does it end exactly? What criteria exists to stop it?
It should stop when it only affects you. You should have the ability to go to hell in your very own hand basket. It’s when you want to take other with you that the gov’t should step in.
But **second-hand smoke kills. **
Let’s assume that’s true. Does the mere SMELL of it kill? If you walk by an ashtray and take a whiff does that kill? Is there any evidence that the smell from an upstairs apartment is different than that?
If not, we are not talking about health, but the normalcy of apartment living..
Yes but we’re not talking about 2nd hand smoke. We’re talking about the smell of 2nd hand smoke.
In order for you to smell it, there must be some part of that substance. Do you understand how smell works?
Certainly a single whiff is harmless to most. But living upstairs from a couple heavy smokers, in a building where there’s not much there, and open ventilation between the two floors? Why not?
Look, we said “Smoking kills” and the Tobacco lobbyists fought that. The we said “second hand smoke kills” and they fought* that*.
Now- you are going to have to show that second hand smoke is harmless if there is a not-impervious barrier in the way.
Be in denial all you want. Smoking kills. It kills OTHER PEOPLE. You have no right to kill other people.
That’s the thing. It’s only THEIR rights and privacy that are important, not yours. Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y?
Very good. I knew you could.
That is the overall plan.
I’m enjoying a cigar right now. I have a house full of storm orphans (I seem to be the only house with power) little kids are playing in the basement and watching cartoons in the den. An old friend is having a lie-down in a guest room. I loaned my mini-van to yet another pal whose 2 cars are buried under a pine tree (!).
I think I’ve earned my smoke.
I’d rather see this as a market based solution that the government dictating it by fiat, personally. Encourage apartment management companies to post whether they do or don’t allow smoking explicitly, and then leave it up to the renters to decide if they have a problem with it. If enough people do, then the market will respond…either rents will go down on apartments where smoking is allowed, or more management companies will go to smoke free buildings in response…or, we’ll find out that it’s only a small minority of people who are assed about this issue enough to do more than complain about it.