The Nephilim, The Pyramid of the Apocalypse, and Patrick C. Heron

Patrick C. Heron published a book titled “The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse”

He claims the Nephilim build the pyramids of Egypt which is contrary to all archealogical information that I am aware of.

He claims it to non-fiction, he is supposed to have a web site.
Searches have not found it yet.

Can anyone shed any light on P. C. Heron and/or his claims?

I’ve never heard of the guy, but he sounds like he’s read a bit too much von danikan.

Now, if it were fiction, I might give it a go…

Well, here is his website (watch the floors, there seem to be a lot of loose screws rolling around):
http://www.nephilimapocalypse.com/

From which one can find information About the Author and cough the book.

From the latter page is this gem:

Now any idiot that starts off with the utterly foolish notion that the Great Pyramid was the first one built desrves to be laughed out of every seventh grade history class in the world.

Loon.

Thanks, Tom. My web searches netted family trees to other herons. nothing on P.C.H.
Book is a coulple of years old and just now getting some notoriety. Featured on World Net Daily (WND.com) today, 02/02/05, page 1 near bottom.
The notation on his web site: “Not fiction” is a red flag reminiscent of Von Danikin.

The Nephilim, for those interested, are the “giants in the earth” (no, not Edna Ferber’s) of Genesis 6:4 – and from that single verse, some totally bizarre flights of fancy have been constructed.

I think Tom~ has already started the debunkery here. All I’ll add is that any ornithologist knows that the herons are fairly closely related to the loons. :wink:

While I agree the man is a unquestionably a loon, I think he may, in this case, just be guilty of some sloppy phrasing. The Great Pyramid is the largest of all pyramids, and it is the first built of the Giza Plateau pyramids. The later pyramids in the complex are all smaller. It’s also possible that he was referring to the fact that the Great Pyramid is the first built of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

But even being charitable to him, he’s still a nutcase!

These sorts of people really rely on people simply taking them at their word for the dumbest stuff.

He claims that Giza is at the “center of the world” (meaning the landmass bounding the Pacific) and notes that the distance from Giza to the West Coast of Mexico is the same as to the East Coast of China. (He also makes a big deal that Giza is perfectly centered at 30° North Latitude and 30° East Longitude (which is pretty much irrelevant to anything since the Longitude to place Giza at 30° East was only created at the end of the 19th century (and had the French won out, it would not even have been that close). (He is also lying, as Giza, which is a Cairo suburb) is actually much closer to Cairo’s 31:17:00E, a bit over 60 miles away from a “perfect” 30°.)
Now this longitude, as hokey a claim as it is, does provide us some information. From Cairo at 31:17:00E we would travel 8,367 km to reach Shanghai on the East Coast of China at Longitude 121:27:00E. Subtracting the longitudes (to get pure East-West measurements), we find that the two locations are 90:10:00 apart, or, roughly 1/4 of the way around the world.
However, San Diego, located at Longitude 117:08:09W, a difference of 148°, is, at 12,301 km, rather more than the distance to China. “But wait,” you say, “Heron specified the West Coast of Mexico, not the U.S.” OK, if we move all the way back down to Mazatlán, we are still at around 106° (a 137° difference, over 1 1/2 times the distance from Cairo to Shanghai) while the West Coast of North America continues to angle West as it heads North to Alaska, eveniually snuggling up against the International Date Line with an East-West difference from Cairo of 210°.

Then there is this nonsense:

Even if the measurements are correct (highly dubious), to make the formula work, we have a problem with his math. Neither 46 meters nor 151 feet multiplied by “10 raised to the power of 9” gives an answer of 91,840,000. And to find a relationship from English feet to English miles, one has that pesky 5,280 number in the middle of the equation that doesn’t match anything on the pyramid. (Don’t even think about the problem of ancient architects building something that begins with meters (invented in the 1790s) and ends in miles (standardized over a period of years among people using separate measurements and language). Such brilliance!)

Even Art Bell admits some of his guests are of the aluminum hat variety. I heard on on “Coast to Coast” one night and the guy was pretty far out there.

No, tomndebb, you’re being too scientific with your numbers, here. EDUCATED STUPID raises its ugly head. :wink:

See, what you do is multiply 46 by 10[sup]9[/sup], which is supposed to give you 91,840,000 (although it seems to give me 46,000,000,000). You then simply take this number and call it miles. It’s the number that matters, not the units. There is no mathematical conversion from feet to miles involved.

Then, the number you get, if considered arbitrarily to be miles, is supposed to be “the exact distance of the sun from the earth!”

Except, of course, that it isn’t. Since there ISN’T a single exact distance between the two what with that pesky elliptical orbit and all.

Of course, those of us in the know are already aware that the Great Pyramid isn’t at 30 degrees longitude. It’s actually at 0, and is the original (and TRUE) prime meridian. I highly recommend that you study deeply the works of Carl Munck.

You will be enlightened. Enlightened like hiyruu was enlightened.

Sounds like one of the theories you’d read about in Foucalt’s Pendulum.

On the Nephilim, there is always the Archives: Straight Dope Staff Report: In the Bible, who were the “giant sons of God”?

You realize that this goes back to the ancient tradition of looking at “Cyclopian” works and saying “Look at the size of those blocks! It must have been built by giants!”

And Pyramidology has already taken every possible measurement of the pyramids’ location and dimensions and extracted enough putative mathamatical ratios to write a Cabbala.

BTW: what latitude and longitude is the approximate center of the Pacific basin? I’d need a globe to check it myself.

Even with a globe you’re going to start a fresh debate with that question. The Pacific is no oriented North/South - East/West, but is a rough oblong on a (very roughly) Northwest/Southeast axis.

Using the (arbitrary) locations of the Kuriles and Tierra del Fuego as the long axis and Brisbane to San Diego as the broad axis, I find the area in the approximate neighborhood of 163°W and 3°N to be one arguable center. Choosing other dimensions or boundaries will get you different conclusions.

And then there’s this:

Now…refresh my memory, but isn’t ascending the same as rising? How in the hucking fell can you ascend 10 feet but rise 9 feet?

Truly, my brain boggles at the superior knowledge of the ancients.

Great book, btw. Likewise, The Name of the Rose (which was also a very good film starring Sean Connery and a naked, horny Valentina Vargas…I’m just sayin’).

While I clearly think this guy is a kook or charlatan, this particular matter might be due to sloppy language rather than an intent to defraud.
If I ascend the 12 steps from my basement to the main floor, each step having a riser of 7 inches, I travel a distance of 12 1/4 feet, but I only go up vertically (rise) a distance of 7 feet.

Hi: Hope you don’t think I’m crazy, I just know things others don’t, so I try to share and then take the ridicule.

I don’t know about this Author Heron, but I do know about the Nephilim. They are the “Ancient Astronauts” that came to Earth about 440,000 years ago. They are Immortal Souls, as everyone is, and they compose about 10% of the world’s population today. The other 90% reside mostly in the “Third World Nations,” called such by a Nephilim since Earth is the third world from the Sun. The 90% evolved here on Earth then were allowed to live in the human bodies that were created approximately 267,000 years ago for the purpose of slave labor in the gold mines; which is found in South Africa today; which are known to be at least 100,000 years old.

People have asked, “Where did the Ancient Astronauts go?” Or, “where did God come from, or where is He?” Never even realizing, they didn’t go anywhere, and “God” lives right here on Earth and was one of the Ancient Astronauts. He was the Prince of the King of Nibiru that sent his people to this planet. The Hebrew God is the richest man on the planet, and speaks from the Vatican. The “other God” whom the Hebrew God kept killing and destroying his civilizations, that was in the one we call “Jesus” is also here, and still trying to keep the Truth alive.

The pyramids were built with the aide of aircraft which the “God”/King of Egypt had at his disposal way back when, long before King Khufu which is attributed with the building of the pyramids due to some roughly drawn symbols inside a chamber. These symbols however were fraudulent and did not entirely match the heiroglyphs of the Age of Khufu, but were of different time periods. So that too, was a cover-up to hide the real age of the pyramids.

Think this sounds like fiction? Fact is always stranger than Fiction. Just because you may not have heard these things before doesn’t mean they’re not true. Just means that propaganda, conspiracy etc. of The Man, covers up the Truth. I know. The government labeled me a “terrorist threat” seven years ago, long before it was trendy. And they have almost completely silenced me. The only reason I am here in this forum right now is because finally I have a computer with every defense system there is. My Zone Alert pops up at just about every website I visit.

And one should not dismiss the Nephilim so lightly. If you’re here looking for answers, you undoubtedly are one of them.

You are correct, but:

One of the ‘tenents’ of the whole vDanniken/Hancock/Alford crew is that they believe that the great pyramid was actually built long before anything else in that area (something like 10,000BC). All the other pyramids are merely cheap imitations by lowly humans.

I won’t be charitable to this guy…these wacko historians have a ‘history’.

Sounds like a plan, to me.

Remember, folks, pointing and laughing is OK as long as you stay polite. No personal insults.

You are David Icke! What do I win?