The New Pitting of ScumPup

The BBQ Pit
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From exy, after I told him not to email anymore (from a conversation on this board):

Grow the fuck up, get over your persecution complex, and spare me your whining. If you don’t like the nonnies, that’s your perogative. Most of them don’t seem to like you either. You might want to try some deep breaths and some getting over it. I’m not sure why you felt the urge to compare me to a Nazi collaborator, but as far as I’m concerned, after that, I frankly and sincerely hope you die in a gutter. If you think that’s what I deserve for posting on a message board you don’t like, then stop to think about all the people who post warm comments on the SDMB or right you sweet, sugary emails who also post there, without their names. Then grow a sense of proportion and get over yourself. And then go work on dying in that gutter.

I reiterate my request that you forward me the emails that were sent with my name attached.

Damon

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I thought we weren’t supposed to post other people’s real names here?

Anyway, “hope you die in a gutter” is not actually wishing death. It’s just wishing a shitty life on you. Which is still not great, but I believe it’s within board guidelines.

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[QUOTE=Sampiro]
Exy, you are the one person on Earth I have ever called a Worthless Faggot. You’re why people hate us. You’re to gays what Rumkowski was to Jews and the times you’re parents told you that you were nothing probably had nothing to do with your sucking cock. You willingly fraternize with people who make death threats against me and Eve and Guin and Diogenes and then… well, to each his own. Water seeks its own level.

And also- if CarnalK reads this, I owe him an apology for my meltdown weeks ago. I totally made you the puppet leader of an enemy foe.
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So now I’m the new puppet leader? And you’re continuing your comparison of me to a Nazi collaborator? Tell me, what did I do to earn that comparison in your now-locked thread?

Cut back on the booze, kid. You’ve got a problem.

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]
I thought we weren’t supposed to post other people’s real names here?

Anyway, “hope you die in a gutter” is not actually wishing death. It’s just wishing a shitty life on you. Which is still not great, but I believe it’s within board guidelines.
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Given that it was an email, it certainly is “within board guidelines”. An email inspired by his comparison of me to a Nazi collaborator in that other thread.

I’m not really fond of that comparison.

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No, I meant he posted your name. He could have transcribed your email to him without including your name at the end of it.

Sampiro, I’m aware that you’re going through a rough time. But other posters have gone through, or are currently going through, rough times as well. I still don’t see where Scumpup insulted your mother directly, or how his board membership is contingent on his apologizing to you. You’re not the only poster who’s ever been treated rudely. And you do post an awful lot about your family, far more often in disparaging terms than in loving ones. What Scumpup said was uncool, but there was an even nastier post in the same thread, the target of which shrugged it off and didn’t call for the poster’s banning.

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]
No, I meant he posted your name. He could have transcribed your email to him without including your name at the end of it.
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You implied that that death wish might be against the rules; I just wanted to clear up that it wasn’t. I’m not particularly one to bring off-board shit here.

I have to say I’m curious why I’m suddenly his new Figurehead of Ultimate Crazy Hatred. I guess next I can expect the threats of violence he sent at whats-his-face?

That’s the real puzzler.

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[QUOTE=Excalibre]
You implied that that death wish might be against the rules; I just wanted to clear up that it wasn’t. I’m not particularly one to bring off-board shit here.
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No! No, Excalibre, I was trying to forestall any accusation that you were wishing death! Sampiro mentioned death threats in an earlier post, and I was pointing out that “hope you die in a gutter” was not the same as “hope you die”, and should not be regarded as a death threat.

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]
Anyway, “hope you die in a gutter” is not actually wishing death. It’s just wishing a shitty life on you. Which is still not great, but I believe it’s within board guidelines.
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At the risk of going off on a tangent and splitting hairs when nobody cares, I can see the 3 following interpretations of “hope you die in a gutter.”

  1. I hope that you die, soon, and that it happens such that you end up in a gutter
  2. I hope that you die, soon, and that you are already in a gutter when the process begins
  3. I hope that, when you eventually die in the natural course of your life, you end up in a gutter substantially near to the end of the dying process

I assume 1 & 2 are not within the guidelines, but number 3 seems ok.

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[QUOTE=RaftPeople]
At the risk of going off on a tangent and splitting hairs when nobody cares, I can see the 3 following interpretations of “hope you die in a gutter.”

  1. I hope that you die, soon, and that it happens such that you end up in a gutter
  2. I hope that you die, soon, and that you are already in a gutter when the process begins
  3. I hope that, when you eventually die in the natural course of your life, you end up in a gutter substantially near to the end of the dying process

I assume 1 & 2 are not within the guidelines, but number 3 seems ok.
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I think it would be hilarious if anyone went to the trouble of saying #3 in the pit just to stay within the letter of the rules. I’m sure something similar has happened, but if that was directed at me I don’t think I could help feeling a little impressed with the effort.

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I have to say, I read the thread to which the OP refers and thought the story was weird and hard to swallow, but having read Sampiro’s explanation here, I can fully understand how and why Tyler got slapped (and IANA American).

Tyler, a white kid from the Deep South, drawls out “Ma’am” to a black woman originally from the Deep South (who would have been growing up right though the toughest times of the civil rights movement) - clearly she felt like this smart-ass little white kid was trying to put the “negro” in her place!

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[QUOTE=saoirse]
Hmm.. growing up in a small town 30 miles outside of an industrial city in the Great Lakes in the 1970s. Yeah, I’m drawing a blank. I got no idea what that would be like.

Sorry not even a damn Yankee slaps a child for calling his teacher ma’am. It was what we were taught to do. It wouldn’t matter if he was Gomer fucking Pyle, no teacher would even notice the ma’am part. That is bullshit. Now if the child said, “I just took a whiz in your desk drawer, ma’am,” he might get slapped. Again, someone is fibbing.
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I did not get slapped for calling a teacher ma’am.

However, I live near Detroit, come from one of the many transplanted southern families in MI, went to a private religious elementary school where using sir and ma’am was required and transferred to public school in junior high.

My second day of public school an irritable old math teacher noticed me bouncing my leg up and down, nervous energy from being the new kid in school and all. I wasn’t even aware that I was doing it until he stopped at my desk, smirked and said “You’ve got so much energy, drop and give me twenty.”

I didn’t understand what he meant, was terrified I’d be in trouble at home for somehow angering the teacher the second day of class and asked “Twenty what, sir?” which caused the entire class to crack up.

He slammed his hand on my desk, making me and half the rest of the kids jump nearly out of our skins, and ordered me to immediately go to the principal’s office for insubordination.

My parents were called, a conference was held, misunderstandings hashed out and I wasn’t disciplined, but I did have a helluva semester in that guy’s class. And the entire incident stemmed from his hearing “sir” as mocking disrespect.

So, I can see how something like that could maybe happen, just saying.

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Oh fucking waaah. “Mommy, mommy! Somebody was mean to me on a messageboard and called me a liar!”

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[QUOTE=XJETGIRLX]
Oh fucking waaah. “Mommy, mommy! Somebody was mean to me on a messageboard and called me a liar!”
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Hey, how come you can say that in 15 words, but it takes Sampiro 15,000 to do the same thing?

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Sampiro, I know you’re under a whole world of stress and pain right now and people saying bad things about your mother/your family must feel like they’re choosing to cause you the worst pain they can think of considering the circumstances, but you really just have to step away from the computer right now. You need all of your strength and sanity to deal with your life at the moment, and this battle just isn’t worth it.

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“In any case, I had more to say, but I’m tired of this subject, I’m tired of the harassing emails, I’m tired of this whole fucking board and if there’s a way of cancelling my membership please point me to it.”

I will never understand the apparent impossibility of “delete the bookmark and don’t go back.” That seems a simple way of cancelling one’s membership.

Someone needs to:

  1. Get over the driving need for approval from strangers
  2. Get over the driving need for approval from strangers on the Internet
  3. Get over the driving need for approval from strangers on the Internet who remain anonymous
  4. Get over himself and his family.

I say again what I’ve said a billion times before: if you post everything about your family online, people are going to criticize everything about your family online. If you don’t want everyone to know about - and comment on - your fucked-up family or the fucked-up way you trade on their strangeness for compliments/sympathy, then perhaps you shouldn’t write about them.

When you publicly tell story after story about how weird your family is and how fucked up things are and how odd and everything it all is, I REALLY DON’T THINK IT’S OTHERS WHO ARE DOING YOUR FAMILY A DISSERVICE.

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Sweet Lord, just write the fucking book already.

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Sampiro, I know you’re under a world of stress right now but you need to stop this now. Unfortunately you must understand that this is a warning that this behavior isn’t working, for you or the board.

We can’t control–and don’t care–what happens elsewhere. What happens here is legitimately our business. There are some truly vicious, blinkered people out there and it sounds like a few of them have targeted you. That genuinely sucks but you can’t, and won’t, be allowed to fight it out here.

I’m sorry you are so besieged right now but consider this thread closing as a mercy killing. Just ignore the cretins, take some time off if you need to and don’t let some faceless, nameless strangers get under your skin.

This is closed.

Veb