The NY Yankees Vs Carl Marx

Supposing all are prepared and have access to 1920s style deathrays, who could garner more public support and admiration in the US during 2003?

Would that be the 1920s-style Yankees, or the 2003 version?

And do you mean Carl Marx or Karl Marx?

The Yankees recently passed 3 million in home attendance this year. I’m also pretty sure they lead the major leagues in road attendance and jersey sales. So they’ve clearly got millions of fans in the US. I don’t think Karl Marx is anywhere near that popular. He loses, deathrays or no.

(There are some people who’d rather root for Hitler than the Yanks, but I don’t think there are nearly enough to put Marx over the top.)

Marx never did learn how to hit the breaking ball.

(Laughing Lagomorph, Yankee fan since 1981).

Carl “Shifty” Marks was traded from the Nashville Vols to the Atlanta Crackers of the Southern Association in 1926. Marks, who had pitched for Auburn, and reportedly had nice motions and good speed, struggled in Atlanta, posting a disappointing 5-16 record and a 5.97 ERA. Player/manager Burt Niehoff told Marks, upon being let go at the end of the season, “Son, with a name like that, you’d be better off in the Reds organization.”

I’d take the Yankees.

You realize mostly you will be getting Yankee fans in this thread, right?

But let me admit to not liking displaced Yankee fans. The Yankee team I have no problem with, can’t root for them, I root against them actively because of the fans.

Please add a :slight_smile: to my above post to show that I am joking.

Sure, but you have to balance that against the more than three million New Englanders who would pick Carl to cheer on just because he’s not one of the damn yankees :stuck_out_tongue: Aren’t they still the most hated team in baseball? A lot of people would think a commie would look pretty darn good in comparision <ducks>

They might be - success draws that kind of thing (see your previous comment about New England). As of the 2000 census, there were 13.9 million people in all of New England. New York State (as of 2001) had a little more than 19 million. Some of those are Mets fans, sure, and some of them might go for Marx over the Yankees. HOWEVER: like I said, the Yankees are the sport’s top draw on the road. Consider the state of Florida, for example. It had just under 16 million people as of the 2000 census. A lot of them, as we know, are old ex-New Yorkers. Because they are old, and the Mets are not, I would wager few of them are Mets fans. Plenty of Yankee fans, and a decent share of NY baseball Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers fans, but not too many Met partisans. Florida ALONE would put the Yankees over the top, nevermind all the other states (there can’t be as many NE transplants).

I would wager that few Sox fans live in Florida: they don’t want to move away only to see the Sox finally win the big one the year after they leave (this is how these people think). So instead, they remain in New England, watching the Red Sox collapse and finish second to the Yankees every year (six years running), reading John Updike and withering away as the leaves turn russet brown each fall, crying like The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, and finally passing away into a nightmarish hell where the Red Sox lose the division to the Yankees in a playoff game decided late by a freak home run from a light-hitting second baseman.

If the Yankees are so popular with people out side New England, why did the Yankees/Mets series get the worst ratings of any world series in recent history? Even Buffy got higher ratings during that series, and it’s a “cult” show. I think you over-estimate their appeal to people not living in NY. :stuck_out_tongue:

But you’re right, why would anyone outside of NE be a sox fan? You’re supposed to support the local teams! And if you were a real new Englander, you wouldn’t have left anyway. <removes tongue from cheek>

I think people were tired of the Yankees winning - who really thought the Mets were going to win that one? :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not trying to say that the Yanks are universally beloved, I know that’s far from the case. But like I said, I’m pretty sure they’re the MLB’s #1 draw on the road. That says to me that there are a fair number of Yankee fans throughout the country.

There are a fair number throughout the country. But it’s also fun to go to those games if you absolutely hate the Yankees. Like me. Who gets a better draw in Boston, the Tigers or the Yankees? The Yankees, of course, but only because everyone in New England hates their guts.

Remember, if you aren’t a Yankees fan you hate the Yankees. There are no fence sitters (well, there are but they lack moral character and should not be counted as actual people). And those of us who hate the Yankees outnumber Yankee fans.

I take Karl Marx.

Incidentally, I’m one of those people who would cheer for Hitler before I cheered for the Yankees.

I’m not denying that a lot of people hate the Yankees. But not everybody who wants to see them can possibly hate them. And even if the people who go to their road games don’t all like them, how many Yankee-haters do you think buy their jerseys and hats? They sell TONS of those.