Isn’t that an argument for a Micheal tranformation? So long as it’s gradual and he’s still the same “Micheal”. Like when he was trying to court Holly?
BTW, I love Parks., I really love it.
I agree. The tweaks they did to her character really saved the show. She still has quirks and insecurities, and is still a naive idealist, but she’s no longer an idiot who would not exist in the real world, and we have seen ability and competence in her, sometimes in surprising ways (I loved it that she turned out to be a skilled, experienced and knowledgable hunter in the hunting episode, rather than a predictably bumbling clod).
I think this entire season of P&R has been better than The Office.
Another thing. Jim and Pam ARE NOT the type who would even want their child in some advanced snobby day care center. They seem like they would scoff at people who would do somethinig like this.
Yet , there they are, while she still has months before even having the baby acting like a couple of yuppie assholes.
And how long are the documentary makers going to be following them around?
FOREVER? Will the documentary ever come out?
Well, I think that the idea is that Michael is the stereotypical incompetent middle manager. His role on the show is to represent and personify the corporate culture that exists to get in Jim’s way.
Hmm, I think this is factually correct;
Jim’s the only person who Michael’s worked with that that’s doing better career-wise.
(I have to watch what I say in here because I read spoilers, not that they are specific. The official site had the name of the next episode.)
Micheal isn’t a villian in my eyes, but he’s beyond stereotypical at this point. We’ve seen some good things. He’s a great ice skater. He can work hard when he has to. He’s just a stunted. He cares for people. He’s just a man-child. That doesn’t mean he can’t better himself. Or be on a kind of road to redemption like **Dio **said.
With no more Jan or Karen, Erin is certainly the most attractive cast member left—I wouldn’t turn down a little peek…
BTW, The Office is the same as it ever was—a funny show with a few clever lines each week, but nothing to write home about; i.e. a better than average (yet still mediocre) sit-com.
I would say Jim and Pam are evolving as characters that would want their kid in a prestigious daycare. They are evolving/growing up into middle to upper middle class business people. They are becoming boring characters. The jim who would put Dwight’s stapler in jello no longer exists. That’s not a death knell for the show situation but bullshit like not ending the b-plot (seriously did we find out what happened at the daycare?) Not bothering to advance any storylines or retreading what we’ve already seen.
I will say I did love Michael subversion in getting rid of the water bottles. That’s probably the most clever we’ve seen him be.
And she’s also a hoarder.
I thought that was perfectly well resolved. They squabbled with the director at the interview and ended up with no chance in hell of getting in.
No, not the villain. Michael is the pot-stirrer in the series. He is the boss with an inflated ego and almost no self-awareness of other’s perception of him. That’s the character that makes the show. His staff simultaneously loves him and is repelled by him. It was the same character that Ricky Gervais played in the original BBC series. I think what makes it harder for the American version to sustain interest and credibility for the characters is that it’s gone on for over 100 episodes now. The BBC version only had 14 episodes! It’s really amazing and a tribute to the writers and actors that the series still has a decent level of quality to it. For me, the show is no longer on my must-see list, but I’ll catch an episode now and then. The turning point came when the Jim/Pam tension ended. That’s exactly when the BBC series smartly ended its run.
It’s not as ‘tight’ in it’s story progression as it once was, I think the first three seasons were all very good. But like bringing Pam and Jim together, the show’s got to adapt, (and in a way viewers accept).
I think many others will disagree, but I think Pam and Jim have naturally progressed.
They are allowed to be a little more on-edge due to the crazy circumstances they’re under. I think it’s natural, I’m just wonder what’s substituting for Michael’s total cartoon antics in the show? Now that there’s not anchor, Michael leads the show to be a more traditional sitcom. I would like to see some more balance on Michael’s end…
the question is, is this another false start, or will the show be working on a satisfactory revamping? I would like it to be the ‘beginning of the end’ of Michael’s off-course road to real growth. But I just want a planned storyline to take up one full season or more; and just casually told while side stories of everyday office life further develop.
What was this? All I remember him doing was throwing it out his car window and damaging someone else’s car.
Ooh – were we supposed to believe that was on purpose? I took it as just another example of Michael not thinking things through.
Although – does OJ permanently wreck those kind of bottles? Can’t they just be washed out?
I don’t get what you mean here. At the end of the episode they still had the bottles, as well as all of Sabre’s other rules.
[edit] Bah, an hour late to make that point? Must have opened the thread and forgot about it.[/edit]
Agree, I liked Parks right from the start and it has been much funnier (imo) this season than Office or 30 Rock.
Am I the only one who caught that? Am I wrong on this? The orange juice ruined the bottles (that was the point of the “metallic taste” comments). You can’t put orange juice in those aluminum bottles it corrodes them. Stainless steel ones are fine but I presume these were the cheaper alumunium ones. Presumably Dunder/Mifflin would go back to their paper cups until Sabre sent them new ones.
Why on Earth would Michael bring jugs of orange juice in to make a toast? I think this was a rare occasion when Michael came up with a plan and it actually worked.
David Wallace is the only person I’ve ever seen that holds his beer IN the water when soaking in a hot tub.
I really don’t think he planned it. I knew right away that OJ would be bad in the bottles, but I don’t think Michael did. He brought oranges because Sabre is in Florida, or something like that.
“Oh…I saw you had your sneakers on and thought you were going to do…something.”
My DVR stopped before the end. What happened after the toast?