I don’t think you can have a show without Michael. I think what has to happen is Ryan self destructs and Jim gets promoted to Ryan’s position. That will also help derail the Jim & Pam thing out off it’s current inevitable track by creating conflict as Jim has to move to NYC. At this point, Ryan can be pretty much written out of the show. I really don’t see where else his character could go.
The actor who plays Ryan (as well as Toby and Kelly) is also a writer/producer of the show. I doubt he’s going anywhere. A demotion back to Scranton, working for Jim, would be perfect.
I don’t really get the Jim moving to NY thing. He already (basically) turned down Ryan’s job because of Pam, why would he take it now, unless he could perform the same duties based in Scranton.
Dang, completely forgot who that was. Thanks (to acsenray as well)
There are ways to finesse that, he could be offered a lot of money, Pam could encourage it, he could decide that he wants to move out of his current professional rut.
There is allegedly going to be a pregnancy in the finale (though it’s undisclosed exactly who is going to be up the spout), if it’s Pam, that would be a kick in the ass to take his career more seriously.
The pregnancy thing DOES throw a wrench into things, especially if it’s Pam. In which case, I’d buy him taking a job in NY if the money is good. The kicker is, Pam would have to go with him.
It sounds like all this is leading up to the much-rumored spin-off.
The best pregnancy story, to me, at least, would be with Angela, and her not being sure if Andy or Dwight was the father.
Since the actress who plays Angela actually is pregnant, IRL, this would be a convenient way of not having to keep filming her behind desks and plants as they are doing now.
Oh, Dio, why’d ya screw me on this?
I know the title says “open spoilers,” but I assumed that meant for this episode, not future ones. Do I have to stop reading Cafe Society altogether to avoid knowledge of future episodes?
Not much of a rumor at this point. NBC has it on their upfront for midseason next year.
Does it really count as a spoiler for the next episode if it was in the preview that aired after this week’s episode? :rolleyes:
I don’t watch the previews.
In some threads (Lost) it officially does not. In some (24) it officially does. I always say that you should err on the side of not spoiling people who don’t want to be spoiled, although lots of people seem to get pretty up in arms about excessive spoilage.
I also never watch the “next week on” for any show.
Right, but he might not want to actually act in it. Until recently, his character was always relatively minor. Mostly hanging out in the background and being frustrated by Michaels constant inane errends and man crush.
As for spinoffs, I’ve heard everything from Dwight to Toby to the accounting staff so I don’t know what to believe. Ryan probably makes the most sense as I just don’t think they can go anywhere else with him in the show. I can’t imagine that he would take a demotion back to Scranton. Even if he gets fired, he can’t find another job in NY? Unless, of course, between his lifestyle, drug use and appartment he has overextended himself and is forced to move back.
And I don’t see how you could do it without PB&J, and I think Carell is more likely to leave for greener pastures than Krasinski and Fischer.
Here’s a super-huge publicity photo of Dwight holding the org chart:
http://www.sparklies.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=468&pos=4
Oh, even better, an official PDF:
I tend to take a more sympathetic view of Ryan. He is, after all, a drug addict. And I think his official warning to Jim was somewhat justified, seeing as he’s always screwing around. There have been repeated references to the fact that Jim doesn’t apply himself because he’s not passionate about the work he does. He’s wistful, he gets slightly jealous of Pam when she works on her graphic design stuff, and he almost always clearly wants to be doing something else. So it stands to reason that he wouldn’t be fully applying himself. Though there does seem to be some kind of vindictive aspect on Ryan’s behalf since Jim, despite being a lukewarm screwoff, is a pretty good sales representative.
The biggest dick in all of this seems to be Toby, who initially was just a sympathetic nice guy stuck in a thankless job, but is increasingly becoming traitorous and creepy. It almost justifies Michael’s feelings about him.
Holy crap, that’s hilarious. I like how Dwight is slightly higher than Jim on the org chart. And Creed’s name is in quotes.