Not quite sure how I feel about Jim whipping out the ring. That seemed a little fan-fic-y to me. His fake out with the shoe was kind of funny, though. I can see him stringing this out until he almost becomes a dick about it. I did like the line, “when it comes, it’s going to kick your ass, Beasly.”
Other stuff I liked – the “Five Families,” Kevin giving Michael the phone number for a Wendy’s, “shorn’t,” and “Ok, no, she can’t fit in a rowboat.”
I thought I heard “shorn’t” but by the time I figured out what he said, I completely lost track of the dialogue and missed the joke.
What happened?
I thought it was an OK episode…one of the weaker episodes of the season.
Michael was a total asshole to Pam’s landlady. When he acts like that, he reminds me why he’s so miserable. I defended him last week, saying he didn’t deserve what Jan dished out, but this week, I regretted my defense. He will never be happy until he stops being so… stupid. He’s starting to remind me of Homer Simpson.
Loved Kevin’s description of the “Five Families.”
Why does Creed want to have 3 chairs?
Some of the office guys were complaining to Michael that they were being forced to park in a satellite lot and walk because of a construction project in their complex. They were asking Michael for help and he was blowing them off. “I’d like to help you but I can’t…well I can, but I won’t…maybe should, but…shorn’t.”
What part of “shorn’t” didn’t you understand?
Yeah, it was a little strange somehow–Michael making an office-wide announcement for a new girlfriend was sort of sitcom-y. Yes, I know it’s actually a sitcom. And falling in “love” with the chair model was way over the top, although visiting her grave was the sort of touching/creepy thing that the show does best.
I agree with Rubystreak* that Michael’s total refusal to act with any decency to Pam’s landlady was particularly assholish. How sorry can you feel for the guy?
So…Melora Hardin is off the show? Forever? :rolleyes: Don’t think so…
The Pam/Jim subplot was delightful, though. I think they’re giving it just the right amount of attention and time.
Love her podcast.Agreeing with Rubystreak and Mehitabel about Michael. Good god, he can be an ass. What was Pam thinking?
His “Oscar Mayer weiner lover” didn’t help either. I hope Jan gave him the clap.
Poor Jim. He’s gonna get hurt.
Why do you think that? Pam obviously loves him. Do you think she’ll get cold feet?
I love how Jim had the ring a week after they started dating.
Her look after Jim announced his intention to propose didn’t scream enthusiasm to me, but I may have misread it.
I think it was just disbelief, not lack of enthusiasm.
Though I think it will be interesting to see if Pam never married Roy because she was harboring a crush on Jim, or because she’s just afraid of commitment. The assumption was that she didn’t really want to marry Roy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was really that she didn’t want to get married at all.
I think it was pretty clear that Roy, not Pam, was the party dragging their feet in that relationship. Pam did ultimately break the engagement, but that was after years of Roy never setting a date.
I could see Pam being gunshy now, after her experience with Roy, but I think between Roy being Roy and her loving Jim there’s little doubt as to why she ended things there. Jim… I’m not sure how she feels about Jim. Jim’s obviously loving his life right now, he bitches about Dunder-Mifflin but I think he’s ultimately pretty content. I think Pam wants something more. She’s enjoying the relationship, but I think she’s not entirely happy with Jim’s life plans and maturity level.
This show is a fascinating character study. Michael is one of the most complex characters I’ve ever seen on a sitcom, while Jim and Pam’s relationship is one of the most realistic I’ve ever seen on any TV show.
I thought that too, just because it’s a standard cliche in sitcoms when the guy has a ring and the audience knows it but the woman doesn’t, he never actually gets to propose. Something always happens to break them up before he pops the question. So, too I got a bad feeling when Jim showed the camera his ring for Pam… but maybe that’s just SitCom Superstition foreboding and not based on anything in the show.
Did anyone else expect Michael to ask Kevin for Stacy’s phone number?
She’s a secretary. Jim’s still the #2 guy at DM (IIRC isn’t it Michael, Jim, Dwight, Andy?). And it’s not like either of them are ambitious, adventurous go-getters.
But I do get a “something bad is gonna happen” vibe. Or maybe it will be the weding of the season.
Andy “We won’t let you down”
Michael “You can’t…because I don’t care.”
I agree. She looked sick to her stomach. I don’t think that she’s ready yet. On the other had, she did open the door by saying that she won’t move in unless she’s engaged. Anyway, they’re going to string this out all season. You just know that he’s going to pop the question at the end of the last episode of the season and we’ll have to wait months for the answer.
I hope they don’t do a wedding. For one thing, the’ve already done a wedding and another would be repetitive. For another thing, I think it would be too much of a break in the format of the show, which is supposed to be a documentary about D-M as a workplace, not a love story. I think the show works better when the audience only sees what goes in the course of the work day, not what goes on in their personal lives. We shouldn’t see their homes and their private lives that much. I know we’ve seen a lot of Michael’s personal life, but he’s ostensibly the central figure of this “documentary.” Even so, I think they’ve done too much of it. They’ve spent too much time outside the office in general. I don’t want them to milk this PB&J thing too much and turn it into a giant fan service with a big, schmaltzy wedding.
I don’t believe these characters would even want the cameras around if they got married. I think it would be more in keeping for them to just elope over a weekend (off camera), come back and announce that they’re married.
From a narrative standpoint, I don’t understand the Jim/Pam relationship. There was all sorts of tension before they got together, but now that they are couple it is just a smooth sailing to engagement. Where’s the tension? Where’s the obstacles? Where’s the adjustment period where you realize the person just isn’t as perfect as you thought? This whole episode felt weird, and the whole proposal thing thrown in at the end just magnified it. I didn’t get it at all.