The Omnibus Trump Pit Thread

Hmm, it wasn’t for me, the second time I tried it.

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Trump’s response?

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There’s no way Stewart and Colbert aren’t watching all this and saying to themselves “ddamn, I shoulda stuck around until after the next election…” :stuck_out_tongue:

Damn, we should have thought of that. Why go through the trouble of Eating the Rich when they’ll happily eat each other ?!

<furiously editing his plans for the Revolution>

As Trump was holding up his hand saying he’d consider an Independent run he was actually making it very hard to get on Ohio’s general election ballot as an Independent. Ooops.

Maybe he can attack Husted on twitter.:rolleyes:

Maybe “I haven’t ruled that out” is code for “I don’t know anything about that”?

In that case, it would be hard to imagine anything Trump has ruled out.

According to Buzzfeed, anonymous sources at Breitbart News have claimed that Trump pays Breitbart News for positive coverage. According to this story, four sources say that Breitbart provides “fawning” coverage of Trump in exchange for financial backing.

Not sure how seriously to take this story. I don’t know anything about Buzzfeed. Are they a credible news source? And, the story is built on anonymous sources from inside Breitbart.com, so the foundation of the story is maybe a little shakier than one would like.

One anonymous source said that he had been told there was written documentation of the arrangement. I would be surprised if there really was written documentation of something like this, which would damage both sides if it became public. That’s the kind of thing you typically don’t make a permanent record of. And the sourcing is thin - an anonymous source said some other guy told him he’d seen it.

So, the reasonable and fair minded side of me is skeptical of this. The bitter partisan side of me is rubbing his hands together hoping those documents get released.

Well, even if true, at least it won’t hurt Brietbart’s reputation any.

:smiley:

Speaking of Breitbart, they just pointed at a poll that has Trump ahead by 32 points:

I also check the polls, and they are consistent for months that if Trump and Clinton are the nominees we are talking about a landslide victory for Clinton as not seen as since the times of Reagan.

If this poll is confirmed by others I do think that this is becoming a nightmare for the Republicans. (for the very loopy conservative ones they do believe that this is a dream come true) Of course many moderates did tell them about what they would get by continuing to seek support of republicans of the Tea Party variety and reactionaries. The chickens have come home to roost.

Shhh…

Or Trump’s!

Never fear, Fox viewers sent so many tweets (from twits?) and notes to the network in favor of Trump that it is the network who is genuflecting to him.

Mr [del]Trump[/del] Burns: “Eeexcellent!”

In other news, if you had any lingering doubts left that the GOP base had a mysogynist streak a mile wide…

Speaking of which, GamerGate has apparently thrown their lot in with Trump too. In other news, if you had any lingering etc,etc.

For myself, I’m a bit worried about how sustainable this crap is. With still nearly a year until the 2016 convention, I’d really prefer to see this come to a head closer to a time when it’s too late for the GOP to pull back from the brink.

Thinking any big-tent party has a single “base” is wrong-headed. It has, by definition, multiple bases, some orthogonal to each other, and it exists by finding a platform all of them find at least minimally acceptable such that it doesn’t lose the votes any of its bases represent.

The GOP’s problem, which Trump both embodies and is accelerating, is that one of its bases is demanding planks which the rest of the country finds supremely hateful and idiotic. As long as the GOP sees that base as being key to its success, it will under-serve and generally fail to represent the interests of the other bases under its tent, because you can’t do jack shit if you’re out of office because your candidates have to pander to the people the rest of us think are reactionary morons.

Demographically, the problematic base is going away anyway. In another world, it would have been slowly marginalized until it quietly and without much fanfare shuffled off into the grave. However, Trump is forcing the world to look at it by dragging it into the spotlight to prop up his own terrible hairdo. And it’s still big enough to propel his hairdo and his whatevers high enough to give Fox News and the RNC heartburn.

But remember that Trump’s approval ratings are ~20%-30%, depending on which poll you look at. The field is huge, the Not-Trump vote is split, and so he’s the one who currently has the big numbers. Even if you say his popularity is at 25% of GOP voters, that’s still 75% of Not-Trump. It’s a full three-quarters of the people waiting for the field to narrow and for Jeb Bush to emerge as the Last GOPper Standing. At that point, Trump won’t have a chance.

Trump is like Ron Paul. Remember Ron Paul? The hound dog who thinks William Jennings Bryan is a dangerous radical? In 2008 and 2012, he had pretty good early numbers, doing well in polls and in some primaries, but he topped out where it mattered around 20% in 2008 and 40% in 2012. His base mobilized early and often but was too small to control the GOP.

Trump is the Ron Paul of the Television Generation. He has his hard-core, and he gets more attention so he has more of a soft base than Ron Paul had, but he’ll top out below the numbers he’ll need to get a nomination. The number of conservatives in the GOP is shrinking, and the conservatives left are the older people who dominate primary voting. (More) This means that Trump has a problem, because his base is substantially more conservative than the GOP’s baseline. In short, he’ll poll well early, but he’ll top out low and ultimately go nowhere.

As of this morning, it appears that Roger Ailes capitulated, and Fox is back in Trump’s pocket. After watching how this played out, I wonder whether the other candidates are going to try to out-trump Trump.

Note that I did say “has a streak”, not “is”.
Still, it makes me recreationally angry that Trump’s poll numbers spike upwards, not only after an old school misogynistic tirade but apparently BECAUSE of an old school misogynistic tirade.

There should be an individual FUCK YOU, NO BUT REALLY committee operating in parallel with those polls, is all I’m saying. Or something like that, I’m not a solution guy, I only point and laugh and cry bitter, profoundly disappointed tears at problems !

Perhaps the misogyny is secondary? Notice how the crowd went wild when he dissed “political correctness” and “I don’t have time to be politically correct”. That sneers at a much broader range of political affiliation. Contempt for PC hits all the buttons at once.

There was no misogyny to begin with. That’s why other things are registering higher.

What, in Trump’s statements? Not even you believe that.