I think they could have a LOT of fun with their own version of the Star-Trek mirror universe- maybe this Kelly will be part of that?
Thing is foreknowledge of the Kaylons’ plans might not have helped. Events worked out to get the Krill to join in but going to them with a story of someone who has been to the future might not accomplish that. The alternate timeline may have an earlier conflict that ends badly for the Union.
Are you suggesting that the mind wipe didn’t work?
Foreknowledge of Isaac’s duplicitous role would be very helpful. Being able to shore up defenses from the Moclans would be helpful, etc.
In Dendarii Dame’s supposition anyway.
I’m not sure though. Maybe the mindwipe worked for declarative (episodic) memory but the emotional impact is still there?
Different path Ed might be a successful but arrogant asshole high ranking officer never have been so humbled. What would Kelly’s path be without the guilt of the affair?
Back to a post earlier about Q’s power. Even a small change can lead to hugely different results in chaotic systems … or is there a basin that different paths all lead to?
Sinister,
I’m not sure is all.
Capture Issac early and trigger war early is not necessarily a successful path. A successful path without getting the Krill to align is hard to imagine and it was only because they experienced the Kaylon ship in their space, its power and intent, for themselves, that they aligned … a path from foreknowledge might not have that.
Moclan weapons alone shored up or not are no match for Kaylon weaponry.
Did I see young Kelly on the preview?
I did anyway. And I think it is called “The Path Not Taken” …
I’m guessing either that, or maybe it was one of those butterfly wings things, where Kelly’s acceptance of a second date with Ed was one of those things that could have gone either way, and by putting young Kelly back in her time and giving her a re-do, the coin flipped the other way in her mind.
(actually I suspect this would be the case; having it not work would be kind of lame)
I am hoping it didn’t work - at all - and Kelly starts using her knowledge of future events to her favor. (yes, she secreted a copy of ‘Biff’s guidelines for timetravel’)
But, then what?
Thursday’s show starts, and the credits are different, and then Kelly’s in command of the Orville, and Gordon’s not there, and no Xelayans (either one), no Isaac, and Ed is…somewhere. Admiral maybe. Or homeless bum. or married to that blue guy. And no one remembers the old way. But there’s no Guinan to “feel” something is different, that something isn’t as it should be.
And the show goes on, and we start to wonder how it will be reset, and then the episode ends, and nothing is “fixed”. This is the new reality forever. And then next season we just move on and have the new, less wacky adventures of Capt Grayson of the Orville.
Or the Kaylons attack and kill every last human, Moclan, Krill. The end.
Though having Isaac be seduced by the human lifestyle turned out to be more useful for the Union than almost any foreknowledge might be.
That would be fun.
P.S. When Lt Kelly was talking about how disappointing CDR Kelly’s life was, I was hoping the CDR would say “Hey, I was worshiped as a God by an entire planet for several centuries. How do you like me know?”
In an Orville, Darkly.
Yes! Yes!
In that scene yes, but in the scene where he gave Cmdr Kelly his ultimatum, (“if there’s no chance with us, I’m going with her”) he was remarkably: a) immature, b) unprofessional, c) irresponsible, and d) dick-ish
He didn’t even respect the friendship that they’d built enough to ask if she would be ok with it. Or to ask her advice as a friend as to whether it would be a good idea or not. He just assumed that since Lt. Kelly was willing, he’d go for it.
I liked the episode quite a bit, but Ed came off really horribly in that scene.
Agreed.
So, we may be hours away from the final episode of the series. Wow.
Tonight is the season finale?
Googling around, it seems they got a California tax credit, so they might get a 3rd season even without ratings.
Until this year, the show was produced by 20th Century Fox and aired by the Fox Television network. The same company, in other words. Now that Disney bought the Fox TV and movie studio, the production and broadcast is with two different companies. Networks are much more likely to broadcast in-house shows lately rather than ones from outside studios. So will Fox continue with the show? Look at the example of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which was produced by NBC but aired on Fox. Fox cancelled it but it moved to NBC.
I’ve heard that Fox might drop scripted shows almost entirely.
Maybe it comes back on ABC next year?
The cancellation predicting sites are 50/50 about the show. I really hope it makes it. If it doesn’t it’s going to go down as one of those famous Fox blunders. The show is just now really hitting its stride. It would be tragic to cancel it.
I hope MacFarlane basically pulls out a “I’ve made your network billions of dollars. Tilt a 50/50 in my direction fit fucks sake”
I’m sure he has been making that pitch.
I have heard the same about FOX going for sports and reality programming now that they don’t have a studio. But does that really mean they would abruptly dump all the scripted shows they have now? Or just let them wind down and replace them with non-scripted content.