The Orville season 3 (now on Disney+ also)

How do you know that they weren’t mating? They could have their genitals in their heads, like some fish.

I’m thinking cloaca as lizards and birds.
What fish has reproductive organs on the head?

Click on the words “some fish” in the text of the message you replied to. The poster helpfully provided a link that already answered your question. I’m a little surprised you missed that.

And, here we go … the routine obsession of Trek characters with contemporary culture has opened up the storyline that the Federation has no culture of its own … ugh …

I liked how Babylon 5 made certain to include contemporary entertainment of its day. I’m looking at you, Rebo and Zooty! “Zoot zoot zoot!”

Eh, that was just Penn and Teller :wink:

You don’t like Reebo and Zooty?

They make as much sense as the Winchester Mystery House

That’s your backwards 21st century thinking. If you lived in the 23rd century, you’d totally get it.

All joking aside, that’s why a lot of these speculative shows don’t show contemporary pop culture. Because people today wouldn’t get it. If you created a play in the 19th century full of pop culture references from today, people back then wouldn’t get it either.

The Winchester house wascthe other thing (besides R&Z) that Londo didn’t understand (ironically in the case of the House since Mollari should understand the guilt that led to the House).

Episode 9 of season 3 was great maybe their best.

Interesting they killed off Ted Danson’s Admiral and the new Ensign Mary Sue. I didn’t expect that.

Ensign Mary Sue was apparently some Westley-Crusher-level genius that could ‘think in 4 dimensions’ and helped build a weapon that could kill ALL the Kaylon. It made no sense for her to be running around on away missions and blowing herself up. She should have been working in a secret weapons lab with her own team of guards to protect her until The Traveler came to take her away.

There was a lot about that season that put me off.

EVERYONE likes Reebo and Zooty! They transcend race, language and culture. They’re beloved on every planet!

Someone needs to bring Babylon 5’s special effects up to 16:9 spec, release it with some fanfare, and stream the episodes. They’d have 5 seasons (well, roughly 4 good ones) of quality sci-fi that will play as good today as it did back then. And I’m willing to bet there’s a LOT of people who haven’t seen it - Hell, it’s over 25 years old, so there’s a lot of people right there. Also, they’re LONG seasons, so it would be like having ten seasons of today’s short-season TV. Bezos should do it, he could afford it out-of-pocket.

I got the impression that she wasn’t unique but of course not common either (the Captain mentioned it, but seemed to imply that it was something that people knew existed). Whatever ‘think in 4-dimensions’ means, it seems like a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot.

Reposted from the “series recently watched” thread:

To elaborate: J Lee still hasn’t learned how to say his lines in a normal human fashion, although he’s certainly improved from previous seasons and they’re actually giving him a lot better material. The other distractingly inadequate actor was Anne “Grr! I am a one-dimensional angry woman apart from one scene where I inexplicably relax and smile and sing and then go back to being angry!” Winters. Some of that was the fault of the writers but tbh I was happy to see her go. I mean, I get her character arc, but that was pretty much all there was of her, apart from her unexplained magic power.

And before we started watching the last episode I turned to the spouse and said “I bet we see the sandwich again”. Nailed that one.

Ooo, good idea!

WAS a good thing to have in a navigator/pilot.

As the ship apparently most likely to be assigned (and at least initially screw up) important missions, I imagine they’d be high on the list for a 4D replacement (although I also imagine that, like a lot of Star Trek tech, 4D thinking will never be mentioned again).

Four dimensions I should believe would be the X,Y, Z axes and time.

Her rare skill was what they needed to succeed in those away missions. That’s why she was on the mission that was her last. Nobody else in the crew could have done it.

The whole point of the Union Fleet (as with Star Fleet in Star Trek) is that some of the “best and brightest” in the galaxy aren’t content to stay in a lab/workshop/whatever, they want to be out there actively using their talents in ways that keep everyone safe and make discoveries. Ensign Burke saved countless people (and Kaylons) because she didn’t want to sit in a lab.

This is a core tenet of Star Trek/Orville. It’s why bridge officers and even captains go on away missions and they don’t just send cannon fodder to scout and get melted by acid monsters. It would be difficult to be a fan of these shows if that bothers you. It would be like disliking the whole idea of the Force and watching Star Wars movies. You’re just going to frustrate yourself.

Agreed, and well said.