C’mon, guys. Do we really need to talk enthusiastically about dead kids? I’m sure there’s corners of the Internet where that’s socially acceptable, maybe even encouraged (:eek:), but in general mixed company it strikes me as perverse and certainly something I don’t care to read about or contemplate.
I think the kids learned a lesson by the end of the episode, and anyone who’s seen Room knows you can’t be friends with your captor. Good ratings on IMDb too, this episode, though not as high as some previous ones. Isaac was awesome.
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I hope the main takeaway was don’t throw things when you’re on a shuttlecraft. Fact is since they live on a spaceship, you would think that they would be very disciplined about not damaging things or acting unruly, because in that environment one mistake by one person could cause a major disaster and kill everybody. In that context, my distaste for brats becomes especially sharp. If their mom tolerated this behavior with little more than a few futile yells and empty threats, that’s a major parental failure on her part, arguably worthy of court martial.
Do you have a list of the topics that it is acceptable for us to joke about?
Nazis are always fun. And Republicans.
You know who else was enthusiastic about dead kids?
Donald Trump?
Hitler was enthusiastic about dead Jews, regardless of age if that is where you are going.
I was thinking that with their technology, they ought to be able to throw individual force fields around squabbling kids to keep them apart and may block out the bickering as well.
I know I’d demand that as a feature of my new interstellar minivan!
I would assume that throwing a toy almost anywhere the kids would normally be allowed to go on the Orville would not in fact have disastrous consequences.
:rolleyes: How about everything but: race/ethnicity; rape/sexual assault; abusing/harming children, the elderly, or the disabled? I may be missing something, but I am just trying to describe what most people don’t need described because it’s just common decency.
Did you turn off your TV when Isaac offered to vaporize the children?
Best $400 I ever spent.
Then I never want to ride a spaceship with you or your kids because such a cavalier attitude raises the risk of what is already a pretty risky circumstance. I compare this to LaMarr’s behaviour in the previous episode - immature and reckless that put himself and others at significant risk, and there damn well should be negative consequences for it (in the meta sense, the most negative consequence is that if the predicaments the characters face are routinely caused by their own stupidity, I’ll lose interest in the show and I’m guessing I’m not alone in this).
I don’t know if you actually have children, but in a purely hypothetical situation, if I was on a small airplane with them and they were constantly tussling, arguing, squabbling and throwing things in the direction in the flight controls and you as their parent were unable or unwilling to restrain them, I might just have to do it myself as an act of self-preservation and I’ll consider it perfectly justifiable to do so.
It’s presumptuous of you to assume your feelings on the issue are how “most people” feel, or reflect “common decency.” In my opinion, common decency means raising your children to know when not to act like brats and idiots, especially when doing so put themselves and others at significant risk. I can tolerate a crying baby - that’s what babies do, after all - but once kids can move around on their own, their parent(s) best impress upon them that there are times when they should hold still. In the episode, there’s definitely no excuse for the older kid not to know this, at least.
I’m going to disagree with everyone 
SlackerInc, lighten up bro. No-one’s actually advocating harming children. You sound like Brian
Bryan Ekers, kids have a lot of surplus energy, and in most cases cannot sit still, quietly, for hours, even if you give them a movie or app to play with. And there’s no way of knowing how long the flight was.
As with star trek, the issue is having them on the ship in the first place, not Claire being a bad mother.
No one’s talking about the latest episode yet? The build-up to Bortus singing Celine Dion (and then it being a fakeout at the last moment) was priceless. The weird sex between the doctor and the…whatever he is…wow. That was something. :eek:
Yeah, and I’ll own it, and back him up (yes, I know the scene is supposed to be tilted against that kind of talk). I saw *Trainspotting *before I had kids and the scene with the dead baby didn’t faze me. Seeing it again as a dad of four, it was *extremely *disturbing. More recently, the Scarlett Johanssen film Under the Skin had a scene showing peril to a toddler that was very upsetting to watch. I’m not sure I’d go as far as *Slate’s *then-editor-in-chief David Plotz, who walked out of the theater in reaction to that scene and essentially denounced the film as immoral. But it was definitely pushing an envelope.
Oh sweet baby jesus are people going to freak out with the idea of Darulio being a walking date-rape drug and the whole thing being treated so cavalierly.
Yeah, true–especially those who already have an axe to grind with McFarlane. It’s a shame, because this episode was a lot of fun, breezy and funny, if you don’t think about it too hard. But the consent issues here can’t be shrugged off if you do really think about them.
Yeah, the actions of the second doctor and Alara – basically they conspired to rape both of the alien ambassadors.
No doubt they saved others from being killed in combat between the two fleets, but are we completely buying into Ends justifying means?
I did like Derulio’s “maybe” at the end. I’m thinking the answer was truly “no” but he was willing to give her an excuse to offer.
Nice callback role for Rob Lowe !
It was a tough episode. Blue Rob Lowe is a very serious public safety hazard and needs to be kept from others when he’s in heat. He is a serious and apparently persistent danger to others. Alara and the Nurse (not Doctor) saved the day in an incredibly unethical way. It was not a show make me feel good about the characters. Also that Celine Dion song might be the song I hate the most of all the songs ever written. So worse episode evah!
I mean Doc goes crazy gun-toting jealous clingy woman in mere hours. Maybe she really is a bit on the pyscho side. Sure, she says she takes assignments with crews that need her more, but maybe she is also a misfit toy.
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Let’s keep jabs against Trump and other Republicans out of this thread, please.