The Race for the GOP Nomination - Post-Thanksgiving Thread

Republican primary voters place ‘electability’ almost last.

True believers, man. They’re wacky.

Tie is with another Post poll today that 1/6 of Republican voters - half of Trump’s current support - say their minds are made up and they’ll vote for Trump no matter what and things are truly weird on the American right.

And this just in, water wet, and Hell an undesirable vacation choice…

And now Ben Carson is threatening to leave the GOP. Let’s pop some corn and begin the happy dance.

You’re from Minnesota. I figure you to like someplace warm for the winter.

I’m not sure he campaigns that well. He scores pretty low on charisma, and seems to be trying to berate voters into voting for him. Plus, he’s insisting on the Huntsman strategy. I’m not sure I can evaluate Qin’s odds of marrying Elle Fanning (whoever that is), but Kasich ain’t getting the nomination.

You also seemed to have fantasized upthread about how he’d win in a cakewalk against Clinton. Of course, this has been polled, and the data doesn’t support your fantasy. That said, general election polls at this point are mostly meaningless, so don’t stop believin’.

If what I heard in Miami is true, I’m waiting more for the “Rubio has a nose problem” rumor.

Poor Ben. Trump has beat him in the Crazy Wars. Maybe we should amend the Constitution to require that Presidents have the social maturity of a sixth grader, at least.

Abandoned by wolves, raised by Texans. Been plenty warm, its overrated.

Cheer up, Qin. Betfair has Kasich with about 0.3% to win the nomination. That’d put your chances way ahead of the vast majority of Elle Fanning’s admirers.

(On the other hand, Betfair has Trump at 21% to win the nomination and 9% to occupy the Oval Office. :eek: This has still got to be completely absurd, right?)

Really? Because she’s been asking me to introduce you.

Rubio’s poll standing actually seems to be falling now. Uh oh. Christie, on the other hand, is in 2nd place in NH according to the last poll from there.

If Rubio is falling that is good news. He is one of the few that the trainers could make into a passable candidate. They have the money, they have the technology, they could make him somewhat less disgusting.

Christie, on the other hand, is going nowhere. Except maybe eventually to prison. I hope he likes to play cards, cause he’s sure to find his bridge partners there.

Paris and San Bernadino has really freaked some folks out and given Trump a lift among a certain segment of the public, not just GOP voters I’m afraid. I’ve begun wondering what will happen if something even worse happens in the future? God forbid a larger attack or an attempt, successful or not, on the life of a candidate of either party or some other prominent politician happens. There is a disturbing proportion of the population who seem to be just fine with talk of keeping Muslims out of the country or making them register with the government. More attacks are just going to make this worse and help demagogues like Trump or Cruz sound reasonable to people who are scared. I realize it is unlikely things play out as I’ve described but not so unlikely as to be dismissed out of hand.

:golf clap:

Well played, sir!

Christie does seem to be getting a bounce from the NH Union Leader going all-in for him. That won’t get any play outside of NH, of course, so he has to manage his own expectations well enough to parlay whatever he ends up getting in NH into a national bounce. I’m not saying he can’t do it. But I am saying he won’t do it.

Words like “can’t” and “impossible” don’t really apply to American politics. He has Trump’s blunt and boorish attitude that a lot of folks mistake for “common sense”. Let us not forget it wasn’t all that long ago he was considered the favorite, almost prohibitively so.

On the other hand, if you’ve had your day, you don’t often get another. So, Romney. Might as well start getting used to it.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with this. I was definitely concerned about a Christie Presidential campaign right after he won re-election in 2013. But I think the bridgegazi scandal ended up being a mortal wound, smoking gun or no. Governors who are deeply unpopular in their own states don’t tend to win promotions.

One poll says that Cruz is ahead of Trump in Iowa now.

I wonder if Rubio, and indeed, all non Cruz/Trump candidates, are at all harmed by not saying hugely controversial things, and thus “avoiding” the attendant publicity?

Very conflicting reports and Trump’s leads in New Hampshire, South Carolina, and nationally are on balance far more decisive.

No its because they are all awful generic neocons blabbing the same nonsense from the Weekly Standard and doing the bidding of the Cuck Bros.

Vox points out that Rubio is copying Giuliani’s 2008 strategy of not competing in Iowa or NH.

That is not a recipe for success unless unelectable candidates win in both states. So the ideal situation for Rubio would be Cruz winning IA and Trump winning NH. But what if Christie wins NH?