The Republican Debate of 9/16/15. What are your expectations?

Well, because the president is Obama, and as the Republican’s see it, to quote Kanye West, “no one man should have all that powa,” unless of course he’s a Republican, then there should be no limits.

Actually, that’s just pure trickery there by Democrats and pro-high immigration Republicans. You write all kinds of border security laws, then give the President the power to waive them. Strangely, he can’t waive the legalization or path to citizenship. Funny how that works.

Hahahaha. “Kanye West”? Seriously? Do you actually expect anyone to believe that Republicans get their ideals, or talking points, from Kanye West? It’s a good story, it’s funny, you’re a funny guy. :smiley:

It might actually be an improvement.

Republican Ideals? Now who’s being the funny guy?

Anyone who quotes Kanye West, of course.

Don’t be obtuse. I quoted Kanye West. I didn’t say Republicans get their ideals from him, although the line I quoted from West’s song epitomizes Republican thought as relates specifically to Obama.

Not sure why I should care what the consensus is around the water cooler wherever you work.

Besides, if anybody rolled him, it was the GOP establishment. In 2013, their game plan was simple: get immigration reform through Congress quickly. That way they could take the hit of the base’s anger early, so the issue would be old news by 2016 (and hopefully even 2014). And with the issue off the table, they could have a chance of winning a decent share of Hispanic votes once again.

And Rubio was happy to sign up to be the public face of this plan, because by taking the lead on a major issue like this, he’d have an accomplishment under his belt that would make him look like Presidential material, and might well win the backing of the GOP establishment for 2016 to boot. (A pretty good deal, no? If I’d been Rubio, I’d have taken it too.)

But sadly for Rubio, the radicals in the House GOP caucus foiled this plan, deep-sixing immigration reform and leaving Rubio holding the bag. And when he repudiated everything he’d previously supported with respect to immigration, he sounded like Groucho saying, “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them…well, I have others.”

Blame Boehner. He could have brought it up for a vote, and it would have passed. But he didn’t even have the guts to say why he wouldn’t.

West epitomizes Republican thought only to someone like yourself. Personally, I think Kanye West is an asshole and I would never have thought of quoting West on any subject.

I’m-a let you finish, but West says he’s going to run for President in 2020. Yes, that may seem ridiculous, but the idea of Trump running seemed ridiculous until recently, too.

Did he say West epitomizes Republican thought, or did he say a specific line from a West song epitomized Republican thought?

and I would never have thought of quoting West on any subject.

I’m sure you wouldn’t have. Why you think this is relevant or something anyone would care about, I’m unclear on.

Jesus. Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if I hadn’t made myself clear.

I find a lot more political insight in the work of Frank Zappa, but maybe that’s just me. Probably.

Like this?

Girl you thought he was a man,
But he was a muffin,
He hung around till you found,
That he didn’t know nuthin’,
Girl you thought he was a man,
But he only was a-puffin’

Totally prescient! Saw Donald Trump coming years before anybody else did!

It also appears that you are unclear as to who introduced the idiotic ramblings of Kanye West to this thread. :rolleyes:

It’s clear that only a truly desperate person would quote Kanye West in order to backup their argument. :smiley: To each their own, I guess.