That link says the vote passed 413 to 12. I get wanting to criticize that double-digit number of Republicans over so voting; I just don’t see how I could, in good faith, level the same criticism at the triple-digit number of Republicans who voted the other way.
I notice you aren’t defending the Republican Party that refused to take up over 400 bills passed by the House in 2020. Or the Republican Party that votes party line against crucial legislation like the COVID bill. Or the Mitch McConnell statement that if the Democrats eliminated the filibuster, "Republicans would use every rule and option at their disposal to halt the chamber, making the Senate “more like a 100-car pileup, nothing moving.”
No, as long as one Republican somewhere can say - not do, just say - something against Trump then you can make the argument that the Republican Party is just fine and nothing needs to be said - or done - about them.
Sorry, but the rest of us aren’t buying this. Never will.
That’s — quite a leap. My objection is to absolutist remarks I’ve seen in this thread about every Republican; but that doesn’t mean I have any desire to express the sentiments you’re attributing to me.
And how many repeated the “massive voter fraud” that led to the insurrection in the first place? How many refused to condemn the increasing levels of violence by right-wing group - or even actively encouraged it - while loudly complaining of how violent and lawless the Left were? How many refused to even consider holding Donald Trump accountable for his role in the events of January 6 (and how many refused to even hear any evidence or witnesses during the previous impeachment trial)? How many are, even now, loudly repeating the new lie about the “cancellation” of Dr. Seuss in order to distract from Christopher Wray’s testimony about those right-wing white supremacist groups that committed the attack on the Capitol?
What percentage of the apple barrel must be rotten before we can write it off? Or must we forever rummage through the rot in hope that there may be an intact apple in there somewhere?
One has to take into account that all other republicans will not make moves to censor those that voted for the rejection.
But while in general that would show Republicans as less evil, the evidence of being more evil in general continues to pile up:
One day after seven women were killed in attacks across three massage parlours in Atlanta, Georgia, the US House of Representatives voted to reauthorise the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA).
The act, according to the National Network to End Domestic Violence (NNEDV), “creates and supports comprehensive, cost-effective responses to domestic violence, sexual assault, dating violence and stalking.”
The act was originally authored by the now-president Joe Biden, but had lapsed two years ago.
Representatives voted 244 to 172 in favour of the bill, largely along party lines, though 29 Republicans joined the Democrats in supporting its passage.
Look, if you want to say it’s too high a percentage, that’s fine by me; I won’t point at one intact apple in reply, or at two or at two hundred or whatever. But if you ever want to declare that there isn’t a single intact apple, well, then, sure, I’ll shrug and go looking for one.
Trump is the problem with the Republican Party?
Apparently the Republican Party was recently formed and it’s a different Republican Party that’s responsible for everything the Republicans did, and didn’t do, for… well my entire lifetime?
“History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake.”
Any intact apples we can find are very happy currently sitting in the rotten pile, and will not dare point out the rot. They are not intact. They are complicit. And cowardly. And the rot is working it’s way into them.
Well, It is not hard to find the bad ones. For the Violence Against Women Act the Republicans voted against it in the triple digits, for the COVID-19 relief bill the Republicans took all doubts out, they unanimously voted against that bill.
If you find a #notallRepublicans approach useful, go for it. But as repeatedly pointed out, the few good apples are currently being chucked out of the barrel.
See, this is my exact point. You don’t say that there are too few, or that there‘s not anywhere near enough to matter, or whatever; you just declare that, nope, not one will dare point out the rot. So if I run across one who will, uh, “dare point out the rot,” then — what? I’m looking at what you wrote, and thinking, jeez, man, all you had to do was phrase it so a counterexample or two wouldn’t be relevant; but, instead, you wrote it like that?
I’m not @Euphonious_Polemic, so Good thing I did not do that, that does not erase what I pointed out.
What exactly happens to Republican politicians who point out the rotten apples?
Uh, yeah, I know: that’s why, when I was taking issue with what he posted, I copy-and-pasted it in my reply. If I ever see a reason to take issue with a post of yours, I’ll do my best to do likewise.
Uh, a message board is not just a conversation between just two people, one has to take into account what else was posted, or you just give the impression that you do conveniently reject evidence that was posted already. The point here is that like Nixon’s aids said, your reply to others was already inoperative.
Just to be clear, (a) near as I can tell, folks hereabouts have been talking about Republican voters, and not just Republican politicians. Still, (b) if we’re so limiting it — well, I know what I’d figure would qualify, and I’d figure we could maybe start with the exact remarks made by Republican officeholders who voted the way you’d like when Trump was impeached; but if that won’t satisfy you, then tell me what you’d figure would qualify as pointing out rotten apples, and then we’ll look at what’s happened to such pointer-outers.
What happened to the Republicans who voted to convict Trump during the second impeachment trial?
If one guy makes what strikes me as a false claim about every Republican, I’m going to take issue with it. If someone else makes a different claim — maybe even one that makes little difference, but enough to be unobjectionable — then I’m not quite seeing the relevance: I’ll still take issue with the first guy’s remark, even while shrugging at the second.
Like if that has not happened already. They are censored in their states and are very liked to be primaried out in future elections.
The point was that it is very convenient for you to shrug it off. The point stands then, the Republican congress critters are very evil.