The Rittenhouse trial

None of those things are similar to killing someone “legally”, no. Someone who prepares to kill someone legally is not the same as someone preparing to buy groceries or run a marathon. Funny and scary that you can’t tell the difference.

Come on, now.

Telling someone you fucked their mother is legal; it is also escalating things.

Suppose they tried to hit him with a skateboard and got shot for it. ¡Smiles and emojis!

Telling someone you had sex with their mother is an insulting and provoking act. It does not give that person a legal right to use physical force against you.

Carrying a gun is legal activity, whether you personally approve of it or not. It is not aggressive in any way if you are not pointing it at someone. It isn’t directed at anyone. The guy carrying a gun across the street from me is not insulting or provoking me in any way. Do you consider police officers on duty to be escalating situations? If not, then it seems that are back to the gun control debate which, like Rittenhouse’s age, is not a relevant part of this.

I’m not sure, if you’ve read my posts in the thread, where you got the idea I’m out to winkingly imply anything. I am saying that Kyle Rittenhouse had considered, prior to whatever night it was that he actually killed somebody, what it would be like to kill somebody in self-defense, and decided he would be interested in doing that if he ever found himself in that position. And that he then went out and found himself in that position. And that this is reasonably described as distasteful, while it is also, most likely, not conduct that is going to result in a conviction.

Most people would not have taken all the steps required to be in position to exercise their right to self-defense in this specific situation. He did. That’s not judgment proof just because it is almost certainly not, beyond a reasonable doubt, the sort of thing you get found to have done in violation of the law.

But telling them you intend to fuck their mother might just cross the line into threatening to rape your mother. Which, if credible, might be grounds for some harsh words or… waiting for the cops or something…. Idk.

100% this. Rittenhouse got EXACTLY what he wanted out of the experience.

Yes? Are you implying that it should be grounds for something more?

And the people he shot -tried- to get what they wanted out of this experience and failed

To be clear, I took your hypo to be the crass insult of saying that you fucked someone’s mother. An insult. Not a literal description of sexual congress that you have or intend to have with that person’s mother.

Got any evidence of this? For example a video of them talking about how much they wish they had a gun so they could kill some people? Cause Rittenhouse did exactly that.

I am. If you’ve credibility threatened to rape my mother, or anyone else, your likelihood of receiving serious bodily injury or death has been greatly enhanced.

After running as fast as he could from someone chasing him, that person knowing full well he had a rifle, and only shooting when the person got close enough to him to grab his gun. If nobody attacks him, then he plans are ruined, no?

He then runs through the crowd that is hurling insults at him towards a police line and only fires again when someone knocks him to the ground with a skateboard.

It just doesn’t look like the setting a trap scenario. Like I said above, if he had carrying a concealed gun, was standing in the street with a “All Niggers Back to Africa” sign and then shot the first person to attack him, your point would be well taken. It is not under the scenario proven by the video evidence.

So what? The real world is not a coddled online sanctuary and having a thin skin is not a license to break the law and assault someone. These are literally lessons one learns in kindergarten. It’s scary how much we have tolerated the infantilization of society.

Only for some. Rittenhouse is held to the standard as if he is running for Jesus. The prosecutor actually busted his ass because he…wait and be sure you are seated…drove without a valid drivers license! The horrors! He must be a murderer!

Yes. There is video of them getting shot for attacking someone with a skateboard, a skateboard that they brought from many miles away, where they weren’t a member of the community. Showing up to a protest where they had no business at, with a weapon, who does that? ¡And not getting shot until he actually used the skateboard as a weapon! Such restraint shown by the victim!

Apologies if this was raised up thread.

Regardless of the verdict, Kyle is not innocent. He may be found not guilty of certain charges. That said, he was a minor, broke curfew, had a firearm he was not legally able to own purchased via a strawman, had not be invited by the owners to “protect” the property he was “protecting.” Two people are dead and one injured by his being in a place he had no legitimate reason to be in. If he was truely a law abiding patriot, he would have followed police and government directives to abide the curfew and not be an untrailed juvenile armed vigilante escalating the situation.

He was on a public sidewalk and attacked by violent criminals, some of whom also had guns. Whatever the lack of wisdom Rittenhouse showed, it was easily matched by the people he shot.

Right, after the first murder

He did? I hadn’t heard that he specifically pondered the “in self-defense” part.