The Rittenhouse trial

If you got your info about this trial from CNN or MSNBC, I can understand why you are perplexed or enraged over the result. I watched some of their coverage, and it was non-stop disinformation. Shockingly so.

This is the narrative they were essentially spewing right until the end:

“A white supremicist militia member crosses state lines with an illegal gun to go to a civil rights protest he has no other interest in other than to raise trouble. He goes there, confronts people, then when one of them reacts he raises his gun and shoots him dead. Then when concerned citizens see this they attempt to chase him down and neutralize the threat to others. The kid then turns and shoots two unarmed men and a third who had a gun out but only for the purpose of trying to get Rittenhouse to surrender.”

I heard one reporter describe Kyle running away from Rosenbaum as him ‘luring’ Rosembaum between the cars so he could kill him. Joe Scarborough said that Rittenhouse fired over sixty shots. Joy Ried claimed that Rittenhouse crying on the stand was an example ‘white tears’, just like Kavanaugh, and this is a tactic white men get away with. CBS described Rittenhouse as someone who 'Murdered two people" before the trial even started.

That’s an unhinged take on what happened, but I found that essential story being told over and over again. It appears to be similar to the story some people here seem to believe.

Yep, you can stand in front of the bus and shoot the driver

In an open carry state confronting an armed person on the public streets simply because they are armed, is not acceptable or appropriate behavior. Full stop.

The case is far from over. The civil lawsuits will be quite lucrative for the survivor and the estates of the two that died.

This case could easily cost taxpayers 12 to 15 million in settlements. Four million per family may not be enough.

That’s where I’m at.

This is also where I’m at.

I don’t think that Rittenhouse went there specifically to kill. However, I do see this as a greenlight for those who will.

Well, thank you!

The right to carry arms assumes the good sense to know when not to.

Getting shot makes on a martyr. Getting convicted by a jury of your peers makes you a loser.

Who will be sued?

How so? What governmental agency will be sued and settle? KR wasn’t working for the government. They can’t sue the court because he was found not guilty. KR may be sued but that’s about it.

Pretty much what the police in America have been doing my whole life.

The lawsuits have already begun. The floodgates are open since the criminal case ended.

The Rittenhouse family will probably sue the media. Similar to the case of the teen that was confronted by protestors during a high school field trip in Washington. He got settlements from several papers.

And that is not relevant in the slightest to what I actually said. My entire point is that he was not confronted simply because he was armed. If he were, then all the other hundreds of people who were armed would have also been confronted, which they were not.

Which indicates that he was not confronted simply because he was armed, but rather, because of his behavior while being armed that people found threatening.

Couple of technical questions:

How much does a defense lawyer get paid for taking on a super-high-profile case like Rittenhouse’s?

and

Since over $500,000 was raised for Rittenhouse’s defense on GoFundMe (presumably more than the lawyer got paid,) what happens to the excess money?

Yes, and while we work to reform the police, as uphill and possibly fruitless battle that may be, what we don’t need is for people to start finding ways of mimicking this cowardly and deadly behavior.

The evidence for your conclusions is weak and your conclusion is thus weak as well. You’re basically postulating “since someone attacked him, but not everyone was attacked, it means he must have done something.” That is not, in fact, what it must mean. But nice try!

It’s still evidence even if you view it a different way, or draw different conclusions from it.

The Blake lawsuit is tangential but not directly related to Rittenhouse. The other one if the wording is anything like what you put in your post should be dismissed at the first hearing.

That’s not how I was intending to use the term, I was saying there is no “evidence proving Rittenhouse threatened people”, sorry for the lack of clarity.

Cite required.

And you are asserting, “since someone confronted him, it must have been simply because he was carrying a gun.”

That is also not, in fact, what it must mean, but you are the one insisting that it does.

The evidence for your proposition is not just weak, but contraindicated by the actual facts of the evening.