Well, if prison-based reality shows are any guide (and I find in 90% of my interpersonal encounters that they can be), the standard approach is a well-trained and well-armored SORT team to swarm the uncooperative individual, with a pre-swarm briefing along the lines of “Officer Jones will restrain the prisoner’s left arm. Officer Smith will restrain the prisoner’s left leg etc.” so that each participating officer has a specific goal and they don’t get in each other’s way.
So… if the LAPD officers on the scene had their riot gear handy, and Koon (I presume the ranking officer on scene) had approached this as an prison-cell takedown and they had the benefit of the 20 years’ worth of hindsight that we so smugly enjoy…
I sit corrected, then. Of course, we don’t have nearly the same amount of evidence as we do of the King beating, so maybe it is not as conclusive as you (and, to be fair, I) might otherwise think.
No, not exactly. My scenario is a violent thug who is beaten somewhat worse than necessary in course of arresting him. Are you saying they would have stopped beating him sooner if he were white, and violently resisting arrest, and mooning the officers, etc.?
Go back to the question of the OP. Assume, for the sake of the discussion, that they were as racist as you claim. Are you agreeing that most of the baton strikes were justified, but the last few were not, or would they simply not have beaten a white criminal who was drunk, violently resisting arrest, etc.?
The City of Los Angelos disagrees. They admitted guilt and settled out of court.
BTW, you keep claiming that King was “mooning” the police officers?
Where do you get that?
He made a sexually suggestive motion at CHP officer Melanie Singer which didn’t bother her or her husband, the other CHP officer on the scene, who both testified against Koon and his pet goon squad, but that’s hardly the same thing.
That’s not what Shodan is claiming. He’s describing a hypothetical white motorist who would have behaved in a sexually crude manner comparable to King. Since race wouldn’t be an issue, the white motorist would have to do something non-Mandingish, i.e. mooning - crude and immature behaviour that might provoke a comparable beat-down.
Are you trying to argue that Koon and Powell weren’t racists?
If so, please explain, because to me people who babble on about being upset about “Mandingo sexual encounters” and claim that an encounter with blacks was “like gorillas in the mist” are pretty obviously racists.
If for some reason you feel you just have to say this kind of thing without any supporting evidence in the post you’re responding to, do it in The BBQ Pit, not here.
I understood your comment and I am telling you it’s inappropriate for this forum. Your paraphrase of the post was obnoxious and inflammatory. You can act that way in the Pit, but not in a thread that’s supposed to be a serious debate.