Does that mean I can’t call the other members of my community “queer” or “dyke,” even when they’re used as self-identifiers?
Esprix
Does that mean I can’t call the other members of my community “queer” or “dyke,” even when they’re used as self-identifiers?
Esprix
Couldn’t resist this thread. I have to call out Lynn.
(Everyone refresh yourselves on the OP, I’m probably going to lose my five bucks)
Lynn, hope you’re feeling better, but I would hope you would smack down anyone offering excuses for any mistakes you made. I’ve had Wisom teeth removed, tumors taken out, multiple broken bones, etc. Trust me, I’ve had some of the best drugs in the world.
You are wrong on the warning to Airman Doors. Flat out.
Reread the thread you warned him in. CC specifically called out his wife in a less-than-flattering way. He was defending his WIFE!!! You should have shut down that thread long before you did.
Thaks all
Why would you want to? Can’t you see that by creating a double standard you’re actually contributing significantly to the confusion and the animosity?
It’s a way of reclaiming the word, and lessening its impact on the subculture. When Savage Love started all the letters were addressed “Hey Faggot.” The repetition of the word in that context removed its power to shock and harm. (See also the use of ‘nigger’ in rap music.) Ultimately, its a way to say: you identify us as a dyke or queer, and you think that’s bad. We’ll accept that you use this word, but we’re going to make the word mean something different from what you intend.
Nigger the pejoritive becomes nigger the greeting in Pulp Fiction.
Queer the pejoritive becomes “Queer eye for the straight guy”
etc, etc.
I think that the confusion that this creates (when is queer a bad word, and when is it not?) can be easily summed up: if you wouldn’t use the word to describe yourself, your better off saying something else. And that’s worth lessening the verbal punch that the word creates. When a word is only hate speach coming from a bigot, then you can focus on the bigot, not the word.
my .02, of course I’m so white I’m nearly translucent so YMMV.
You have got to be fucking kidding me, right? I must wholeheartedly disagree with this statement even though I don’t find anything wrong with your actions or words in the thread in question.
Sam
Is there any application for “queer” or “dyke” that can’t be more appropriately said with less loaded words?
Anyway, I’m out of this thread, and this time I have a good excuse. Unless there’s some sort of Internet access where I’m going I’ll be unavailable for a few weeks. See ya.
Oh fucking hell. Has nobody heard of "context?
I’m glad now I didn’t post in that thread (I nearly did), as I’d be on the receiving end of this crap too. It doesn’t pay to support Israel on these boards. Last time I backed up a guy who queried Iran’s rejection of emergency Israeli assistance to its earthquake victims, I was accused (through LiveJournal) of “posting whilst drunk”. It speaks volumes about the debating capabilities of the people I’m arguing with here. Well people, I had a glass of chablis with my dinner three hours ago, and I think this stinks. Apologies for not taking the latest fashionable viewpoint.
Airman Doors has my full support.
Airman has my support, too. He might have Lynn’s support as well. This isn’t about support. It’s not a football game with Lynn cheering for one of the teams. He just got a warning. I’ve had warnings. Haven’t you every had a warning?
I was actually thinking of asking this same question, but absurdly I couldn’t think of a way of asking it without risking having some recently-awakened-to-hypersensitivity schmoe come along and accuse me of homophobia for asking the question.
As I said, it’s a pretty established tradition amongst anti-racists and anti-homophobes to turn hate speech on its ear in one form or another as a tool for fighting prejudice. It may be that this board wants to restrict that tactic, and that’s fine, but I hardly think it’s implied under “don’t be a jerk.”
Thanks, Lynn, for the explanations; I do hope that at some point you’ll be willing to reconsider this rule.
Daniel
TheLoadedDog
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It doesn’t pay to support Israel on these boards.[/QOUTE]
It will be, give it some time. &
You have a ‘fashionable viewpoint’. Most people don’t realize that. Yet.
Fuck. I’ll try this again. Can the above post be removed? I’m sorry. I’ll preview.
TheLoadedDog
It will be, give it some time. &
You have a ‘fashionable viewpoint’. Most people don’t realize that. Yet
I don’t think anyone’s asking you to. Just don’t forget about this thread.
Some of us feel the warning was either undeserved or the rule is unevenly enforced. Or both.
Glad to see you’ve dropped the “overprotective big brother” act.
It’s too bad you think someone has to be acting to defend a sick woman with an infected tooth. You’re a monster.
A monster? WTF is up with you lately, Lib? Everyone here has been calmly discussing what went down in that thread. You are acting like an insane person. Isn’t reasonable to question what happened? Many of us think that the Airman’s warning was unwarrented. Some would like a clarification which Lynn was kind enough to give us. If Lynn wanted us to stop, she’d tell us or she’d lock the thread. What in the world does a toothache have to do with anything?
Haj
You’ve obviously never had one. Your whole head throbs. No pain killer can help you. It is persistent, and you lose sleep, can’t eat, and risk an infection traveling to your heart valve. It is extremely serious and debilitating. It is remarkable that she could even do her tasks, so all I said was cut her some slack. And everybody acts like, well fuck her pain and hardship, I want my damn answer.
Oh, come the fuck off it, Lib. She’s clearly not too sick or infected to make decisions that affect us, so she’s not too sick or infected to take the heat for those decisions. If she is too sick to step up and take responsibility for her decisions, she needs to hang up her moderator hat till she’s better.
I think Libertarian is pulling some legs, here. hehehe
You’re not just monsters. You’re demons. It isn’t sufficient for you to rip at her, you have to make a full-throated roar at anyone who defends her. If you can give your opinions, I sure as hell can give mine.
Somebody forgot to take their fucking Thorazine.
It isn’t Thorazine; it’s Prednisone.