In my view, there is no such thing as an " Abrahamic God", there is only God. God is the standard, not you, not me, not religion, not anything human; he alone sets the rules of this game of life.
and there is nothing;
absolutely nothing we can do about that.
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And I think we are most fortunate of that; because if men set the standard, then all of us would be in serious trouble.
No, what I am declaring is that I am finished responding to you, because I hold no interest in those who foul up a debate with childish foul language; peace on your journey. I have no more interest in responding to those who speak as such, because I don;'t do that to anyone.
No, he did not. If he actually had died, he would be now dead, no one would be praying to him, thanking him for the winning touchdown, be being watched over by him. He came back! What a wonderful miracle – except, it makes his “sacrifice” entirely meaningless. In terms of an immortal lifespan, it was a bad hair day, a touch of oblivion, and now things are right-as-rain forever more (“hey, remember when I was crucified and all? good times :p”). God did not lose his son, he got him back, and neither of them ever had any doubts that it would turn out that way. So how that possibly works out as any sort of “sacrifice” is beyond reason. I guess you are welcome to be happy because of it, given the intense conditioning you were subjected to in order to elevate your faith, but from the outside, it looks as absurd as Zeus fucking Io and Hera getting all pissed about it.
I have no faith, I believe because of my research of the facts. I don’t have faith in God, I have a serious belief in him, because I see nothingelse worth believing in.
Well, he’s stuck with holes in his hands, feet, and ribs. Permanently scarred, never to have the smooth skin of youth again. That’s kind of sad. It isn’t quite the same as laying down his life, but it is a small sacrifice.
Well, he had to do some magic to show Thomas the scars - so, clearly he has the ability to look ‘perfect’ (for various definitions of ‘perfect’).
Also, since there is no ‘hell’ for torment or punishment, seems at most he took a nap for those three days and wasn’t even aware of time passing… so, it was like "an instant’ for him.
I always pictured jesus going into a salon, holding out his hands and asking to have his nails done. Though, if his feet were also involved, that would present something of a challenge for a triclavianist.
For You: thank you! I’d never heard of triclavianism! A new concept is a wonderful gift for the day!
(Is there nothing Christians won’t fight each other over? I was particularly amused by the note, “The judgement of the Pope was confirmed by a miracle.” That sure must be nice! Can I have a couple of my personal opinions confirmed by a miracle?)
Mickiel, for all your complaints about the way other people are addressing you, you’re resorting to a very obnoxious tone here. Stop or take it to The BBQ Pit.
Hey, np, I first heard about it recently on the Dope (damn, I gotta stop opening the religion type threads) where someone posted a link to a sort of satire site where they “espouse” antitriclavianism, which, you have to admit, really rolls off the tongue.
Nobody cursed at you. The point I am hoping you will understand is that you can pretty much say what you want about someone’s argument, but making personal comments about a poster - like saying they’re “conditioned” or taunting them because you think they’re uncomfortable - isn’t appropriate for this forum. It’s fine in the Pit, but not here.
