The strange concept of eternal hell suffering.

You earlier claimed that the authors of the Gospel were disciples of Christ (direct witnesses even) - what would you call these folks?

You are re-defining terms to meet your agenda.

If you are suggesting that the Dead Sea Scrolls do not exist, then you need to visit them in Jerusalem, there still there in their original text. The post script does exist, your just in denial of its existence.

what? he said nothing about the ‘dead sea scrolls’ - whats that got to do with the idea of 'god creating the place he could exist in before he existed" ?

So this Satan fellow is real too?
Any other gods that exist as well?

So if god ‘always gets what he wants’ - seems he wanted this to happen.

He redefines terms and has what could only be called a very low standard of evidence to the point of making the word useless in conversation. This type of Christian groupspeak is almost impossible to deal with in rational conversation.

The concept of eternal hell punishment is a " Trojan Horse" in my view, planted by a team of expert demons who know how to seduce the Christian mind. The seduction of the Christian mind was needed in their plan to deceive humanity, because they knew Christianity would have a lot of influence in the 19th and 29th centurys. I believe the idea was to " Dress this doctrine up like it was " Spiritual", or created knowledge from God", then they had to get it inside of the church. Once inside they knew it would implode and plant itself there for as long as that church existed. But the horse, ( or the knowledge), had to " Look like something out of the bible", so the believers would swallow it hook line and sinker. This is the true history as to who created this strange doctrine of eternal hell punishment.

Your god, Satan, demons-are there any other supernatural deities you believe exist?

No, I think that’s it. In my view, there is only one true God, and father of us all; then there is satan, who is called " The god of this world", because he runs it; and then there is Jesus, and I am not sure if Jesus is a God now, I think that is unclear.

Why do you not capitalize “Satan”? Is that not his name?

I am not Christian, I am not in any group, and I have been speaking with Atheist for 15 years straight on this internet. You can look at city-data.com archives and see that is a fact, or religiousforums.com and see it there as well, and I have more cites where I have had rational talks with Atheist for years if you need more cites.

You say you believe that Jesus was the son of your god. Do you follow the tenets/teachings of Jesus?

Satan.

SATAN.

Satan.

There, any other request?

Plus demons, apparently. Angels too?

What are they then, exactly?

I don’t recall making a request. I just asked a question.

The definition of Christian.

No, I don’t " Follow" anything; I am not a follower of any body, I keep telling you that I walk alone and it keeps going right over your head. I believe Jesus existed and is the Son of God, but I do not " Follow him", I don’t know him, we have no relationship, he does not talk to me and neither does God.

I just understand that they exist, and in all my evaluation of life, based on the facts and evidence I have seen, I think the bible is correct in its teachings of our origins and God and Jesus, it explains everything to me, it fills in all the missing blanks and connects the lines, in my view; not science, not Atheism, not religion. And I do not view the bible as errorless, it is not. I follow my own mind, I follow my own consciousness; period!

In my view, the statement I made is clear, there is only one God; now, that means all others are NOT Gods! A human is a human; a demon is a demon; an Angel is an Angel; Jesus is what ever he his, I am not quite sure what he is. A cat is a cat; a dog is a dog; a fish is a fish.ECT>>…

Ok, I suppose the early christians would have had trouble explaining that they weren’t Judaic. Like they based their religion on the Torah, you base your religion on the bible. Understandably, people are going to be confused when you use terminoligy from one source but adapted to your views, which no one knows anything about.

How do you know theyexist?
How did this being manifest istself?

and related…

Why the bible? why Yahweh? Why not Wodan?

Well, I’ve seen cats, I’ve seen dogs. I have a good working sense of what they are.
I’ve never seen a god.
What is a god and what are demons/angels. What is the difference between the two?