Sorry if I missed it upthread…
I hope they nail these folks.
I would expect that Trumpers won’t refrain from such violence again in the future, but they’ll wear masks like Antifa.
I suppose you have a cite that Antifa actually exists and that they wear masks?
They need to be made an example of. I wouldn’t worry about making them martyrs; the people who would embrace them as martyrs are already beyond hope and have lost all grip on reality. But it might dissuade people who are more self-serving or too cowardly to do anything that involves actual risk.
Since any number of them arrived together on busses, they erected a scaffold and noose on the grounds, and they invaded the building yelling “Hang Mike Pence!” I think every single one of them and anyone who wasn’t there but aided/abetted/etc. be charged with the attempted assassination of the Vice-President, conspiracy to. That should be good for life w/o parole someplace uncomfortable.
Works for me.
You know, when they returned to chambers and gave their “heartfelt” speeches, I had a glimmer of hope they would remove Trumps ass.
Three days later Bitch-boy Mitch has figured out a way to stop the impeachment (or at least delay it past jan-20th.) They’ve learned nothing. And the next Repub to hold the WH will take Trump’s game to the next level. because why wouldn’t he?
Because in the end it failed. The GOP lost the three branches that are elected in four years. That hardly ever happens.
Trump brought the violence right into their workplace. I think the offenders are about to become examples.
**BILL MOYERS: But as I watched, I was taken with a couple of still photographs of the members of Congress after the invaders got inside, who were being evacuated. They got their gas masks out from underneath their desk and began to proceed. Three in a row that I saw were what I would call political agitators from within. They were people who supported Trump’s argument that the election was a hoax and was rigged. And they had the most bewildered look on their faces as to what was happening. And as I watched, I got angry with all those people who stoked the fires of dissent and, when it got out of control, acted surprised, like those members of Congress who were being led out. But once you whip up fury with people you’ve lied to, you can’t just brush them off with a shrug of your shoulder. And you can’t just say, I have no responsibility for what happened. I only asked those people to vote for me. I didn’t ask them to attack the Capitol.
Now that the lawmakers (on both sides of the aisle) have faced the threat personally, and they have Dems in the House, Senate, and White House I think the laws are about to become very, very tough.
You are so, so very wrong; this isn’t over.
That was a test. If it had succeeded: great! If it doesn’t: no problem; we’ll just double down!
We’ll see, but I think I’m right. 1 in 5 Republicans supported the riot which is way too many but that means 4 in 5 did not. There’s a better chance of the GOP eating itself for the next few years than doubling down and coming back twice as hard.
Ah, okay; you’re just gonna bring up new things and move the goalposts… of course.
Nope, the goalposts are still there, you just keep missing them. Right now, even with the three new SCOTUS members, the Trump legacy looks like it’s going to be a failure. The GOP lost the House in 2 years and everything in 4. Some of the bigger Trump supporters in the senate–like Hawley–are taking a lot of heat and may end up going down. I don’t think any major Republican will try to ride the Trump wave.
You must not really be talking to me because you are talking about things that I am not.
<shrug> you’re the one who quoted me first. I’m not sure what you want.
Who quoted whom is irrelevant. You’re responding to a specific topic. If you change from talking about the seditionists and Trumpist in general, you’re still moving the goal posts.
The topic of this thread is whether these violent thugs will feel emboldened by the level of success they experienced. It is what level of punishment they’ll need to experience so we don’t have another coup attempt, both in the coming weeks and when the next demagogue comes and can inspire a mob to try to and overturn the elections. Talking about what the more sane Republicans think doesn’t really address what the radical insurrectionists are going to do, as they aren’t the same people.
The fact most Republicans are against what happened is utterly irrelevant, as Republicans were by and large against this action anyways. If it didn’t stop them before, why would it stop them now? Heck, they know that they’ll just be seen as Antifa because surely a Trumpist can’t be that bad. So the only thing to do is make sure these people feel the punishment.
Your emotional reaction to all of this is to try find a way in which things aren’t as bad as they seem. I get that. I do that, too. But I would argue you’re going too far, and posting in a way that seems you don’t take the actual threat as seriously as it actually is. And that is what I suspect people would prefer you not do.
You were wrong to criticize those who were afraid something like what happened on Wednesday would happen. They were right. You have too much faith in the goodness of other people. After I was wrong about the mask thing, I started being a lot more humble about saying things weren’t going to be as bad as people thought.
You still seem to be pushing the idea that the insurrection isn’t as big a threat to our democracy as it plainly is. Republicans and Democrats aren’t the threat, even if the Republicans created the monster. It is the monster beyond their control that is the threat.
Another friend in high places…SMH.