That was a good clip, but I don’t think it was an eep. She has to hold her breath while phased so she was just inhaling sharply I think, before falling through the bed.
They all started leaving as soon as that scene came on when I went to see it too. It was really annoying, I don’t see what the big rush is, they all just stand outside afterwards anyway. Noone blocked my view, but I was a bit too distracted to listen to the speech properly. I can’t wait for X3!
While rehashing the movie with a friend, I couldn’t help but think that nobody told Patrick Stewart his opening voice-over would be playing over shots of stars and outer space. Something tells me he had a minor seizure when he first saw it. 
Actually, I thought the closing voice-over by Famke Janssen was a direct lift of Leonard Nimoy’s voice-over at the end of Star Trek II, after his character got killed.
Of course, like Nimoy, Janssen will almost certainly be back for the next movie.
I was a little disappointed that there wasn’t a scene of Iceman freezing the lake (which would have been a fairly easy solution to the flooding problem), and it struck me as implausible that Rogue could even (poorly) fly the X-jet, but beyond that the movie was cool enough.
The “Jason 143” character was clarly drawn from Jason Wyngarde, aka “Mastermind”, an early X-Men villian with illusion abilities.
Maybe I’m just weird but I got the impression that Jean had somehow controlled Rogue and made her fly the Blackbird over to where they were. Rogue’s never showed any sort of technical ability and that would explain why she was so shaken up afterwards.
Number Six - I can’t believe I didn’t figure out what that shape under the water was until I read your post. :smack:
I believe she is contractually obligated to come back for the next movie. (That and otherwise, the water scene wouldn’t make any sense.) According to Entertainment Weekly, she and the younger mutants are signed on for X3 (please god please god please don’t let it be referred to as “xXx” in any way shape or form). McKellan, Stewart, Berry & Jackman are not. Renegotiations!
As far as I know, in the comic books Iceman was always pretty bad at using his powers, and could never manage to fully understand their potential. The first time he ever managed to do something cool was when someone else took over his body (I think).
Forming a wall of ice from a distance through indirect contact seems to demonstrate a pretty good demonstration of control, in my humble estimation.
Did anybody else notice that Wolverine was not exhaling visible breath when he visited Alkali Lake the first time even though he was surrounded by snow and ice?
Very enjoyable movie that surpassed the first in many ways.
Just one question though.
At the end when the impending dam break was threatening the entire group. Why didn’t ice boy just freeze up the leaks?
I wondered that untill I dismissed it mentally with “probably not powerfull enough”. The hidden power in Jean Grey (Phoenix? IANAXMF)
I wonder if Magneto can lift the Eifel Tower?
I don’t think Iceman could have froze the water to save them. There was just too much of it. At best, he’d create a wall of ice that would be propelled at them at a tremendous rate of speed by the millions of gallons of water behind it, and simply smashed them flat.
Of course, that’s using real world logic on a movie that features a character that can freeze things solid just by touching them, so…
That’s what this movie was missing! HAVOK! My favoritest Marvel mutant of all time!
Was Alkali Lake in Canada or not? If it was, the sign out front should have read “Department of National Defense”, not “Department of Defense.” Further, why would an American military expert be conducting experiments in Canada in the first place? Was there Canadianin involvement at all? Where’s our cut of the conspiracy action, dammit?
I’d really like to see a scene in X3 where Cyclops just gets pissed at Wolverine, shouts “SHUT UP, YOU BASTARD!” and then blasts him through the side of a building. Like many posters here, I’m a little annoyed at Cyke’s passivity.
Ha! I went to school with her. (For one term, anyway.) And I can’t shake the ‘curse of the kiwi actor’ thing, which means every time I look at her I think ‘snerk. Shortland Street.’ (even though, to my knowledge, she was never actually on SS.) Bah, tall poppies. Can’t fight 'em.
Also, the opening scene with Nightcrawler was easily worth ticket price. I spent the rest of the movie muttering ‘shut up Cyclops. Nobody likes you.’
Oh, and the three of us cheered when the phoenix shape became visible. So did about half the theather.
You know what scares me? I don’t read the X-Men comic. Never have. Neither do any of my friends. And yet, as soon as they had that shot of Jean’s eyes lighting up when she used her powers, I sat up straight and thought, “Hey! They’re doing the Phoenix storyline!”
I mean, how the hell do I even know what the Phoenix storyline is? I’m the same way with Star Trek. I know all sorts of crap about Star Trek, and I don’t even like the show. I think my mutant superpower might be a mastery of geek trivia.
I’ve never read more than a dozen X-men titles, but I did watch the cartoon obsessively, and all that TV2 ever tid was loop the Phoenix saga over and over again. Eventually I could quote them. Now we’re getting GenerationX cartoons and, to my mind, are a much poorer sort. No Jubilee for one thing. No Beast. No sassy southern Rouge and smooth-as Gambit. The fact that I’m about ten years older may be something as well…
Weird. Creepy. When I read this post, I thought I had written it and forgot about it.
I’ve never read the X-Men comics, either, but at the end of the second movie I said, “It’s the Phoenix.” And then afterwards, I was explaining it to my friends and rattling off all this X-Men trivia (most of it correct). It was like being under the influence of the neck juice – I could hear myself saying these things but had no idea where they were coming from. All kinds of weird stuff – Dark Phoenix, aliens in love with Prof. X, explaining who Colossus and Kitty Pride and Jubilee were, etc.
I think manx is right – they’ve been re-running X-Men: Evolution on Cartoon Network, and I get a weird sense of deja vu when watching them and the earlier (awful) Saban X-Men cartoon. I must’ve watched them and forgotten about it.
Same with Star Trek, by the way. I’ve never been much of a fan but still know all these weird details about it. It was at its most disturbing when a friend was explaining this impossible situation he’d gotten himself into and ended with “It’s a real Kobiyashi Maru all around,” and I understood exactly what he was saying.
Oh yeah, and back to the OP. My favorite things after seeing it a second time:
All the cars at the school have handicap-access license plates.
A big warning label at the edge of Magneto’s cell says “WARNING: 100 foot drop.”
When the secret service guy finally opens the door during Nightcrawler’s attack and the entire room is just filled with a cloud of brimstone.
When the kid who “doesn’t sleep” gets hit with the tranquilizer darts, they show him lying on the floor with his eyes wide open.
All the posters in Bobby’s room are of snowboarding.
The look on Rogue’s face as she takes off her gloves when Magneto makes his catty remark.
The balls orbiting Magneto as he floats out of his cell were a nice flourish. (And he sure was flourishing a lot in this movie.)
When Jean is holding back Cyclops’ eye blast, there’s a shot of her looking really evil right before she deflects it. There seemed to be several moments foreshadowing the Phoenix that I hadn’t noticed before.
Right before Lady Deathstrike dies, the blue goes out of her eyes. It definitely implies that she wasn’t an all-bad guy in the movie, and was just under mind control.
Somebody in this thread or another asked why Magneto had to reverse the plates in Cerebro to get it to target humans, when Prof. X could switch back and forth without any calibration. Stryker’s version of Cerebro was only half-complete; half of the plates were missing. (It makes comic-book sense, anyway).
And my new favorite scene in the movie: when Rogue gets sucked out of the X-Jet and Nightcrawler teleports out, catches her, and brings her back in. Both times I saw it, everyone in the audience cheered.
Actually, that makes a lot of sense. When Stryker collapses from the Professor’s attack on normals, he says something like “that’s impossible!” Heh, good planning to make it impossible to attack normals. Unfortunately…
Regarding the plates in Cerebro Jr, I thought that Stryker had configured them to target only mutants, therefore, Magneto had to switch them around so that they were attacking humans instead.