~The Top Ten Things You Shouldn't Ask Me At Work Because It'll PISS ME OFF~

So they can’t ask if you work over there, but can’t ask if you work over here?

I’m sure you are perfectly polite with customers, most of us are. But there really are legitimate reasons for a customer to ask the questions you listed (not that the customer always has a legitimate reason).

Anyway, it seems to me that the vast majority of stupid questions comes from the logic of “can’t hurt to ask.” I can’t tell you how many times a library patron has asked the stupidity-equivalent of “where’s the red book I was reading last week?” It may be a stupid question, but it is all the information they feel they have. At least it provided me with the opportunity to probe and perhaps get some actual useful information.

The hard part is always getting the patron/customer to talk in the first place. If you can get them talking you are much more likely to get a sale or to help them.

For example, a customer may be confused about the differences between two shoe models. Being a mostly polite person, though, they come to you with a simple question just to get conversation started. “Where can I try these on?” If you are busy or don’t want to help you point and they go away, but they are hoping you will say “why, you can try those on right over there. Let me help you with that, is there anything I can tell you about those shoes?”

Many years in a library have taught me that this is exactly how some people will behave, they are so damned worried about inconveniencing people. So often “where are you history books” actually means “I need to know the GDP of Paraguay in the five year periods before and after WWII.” I suspect it may be very similar in retail.

My guess is that Devin Austra works at some giant mega-store, like K-mart or Walmart. These stores survive by hiring untrained labor at low wages. Expecting someone working one of these jobs to try to take up the slack and be a skilled and enthusiastic representative of the company is unrealistic. Working at those places sucks. It’s boring, it’s stressful, and it’s hard. Doing your job half-assed pays exactly the same as busting your balls, and you’ll never get fired. (Unless you steal, or smoke weed in the break room.)

Instead of harping on Devin for not providing excellent customer service (for no extra benefits whatsoever), I think people should pay the extra money to patronize the small businesses where pezpunk’s comments still apply, and you can actually find good customer service.

(A bit of a tangent, I know, but Walmart et al is currently strangling all the cool local businesses in our community, and it’s frustrating.)

I have to disagree. There are days that I could have come home from work and written something like the OP. What days are those? Usually the days that my last customer of the day is the moron or the asshole (or worse, both in one), because I don’t have the usual situation where the next customer’s attitude reminds me that not all customers are like that.

Devin… everyone has a list of shitty things they need to put up with in their line of work… questions they need to repeatidly answer, etc. My advice to you… become a waiter or bartender. The list of stupid questions may even get longer (and the frequency of their being asked increase), but as you smile your way through and give exemplary service, you get compensated better. Free meals, (as opposed to the food court), a fistful of cash at the end of your shift, and who knows, maybe even a shift drink or two to take the edge off.

Not all the time, but in the service profession if the guest is satisfied with the service, they’ll tip you well. If not, well, then it can mean that your attitude may have had something to do with it (DISCLAIMER I am NOT saying that there aren’t assholes in that profession that don’t tip). It is true that the best servers and bartenders with the best attitudes make the most money.

Think about it!

Giraffe said it best-it’s a hard, boring, brain sucking job and I just want to claw my eyes out.

Here are some others-
If I am in the middle of counting money-you SEE ME PHYSICALLY DOING SO, please do not interupt me. Wait until I am finished. If I stop, I have to start all over, and then you get angry that I’m taking too long. If I only hold up a finger, don’t get rude-I’m simply trying to keep control of my money-if I don’t, and get distracted, the big bosses get royally pissed.

don’t make fun of me when I say it’s company policy and I could get fired for doing this. (Taking a check with a different name and address, for example.) Fuck you, unless you want to pay my college tuition.

In the beginning, I cared. I tried my hardest, I worked harder, went “above and beyond the call of duty.” Where did it get me? Squat and more heartache from people because my ABSOLUTE BEST FRIENDLIEST SERVICE wasn’t good enough because people wanted what they wanted when they wanted no matter what. So I say screw it. I’m not rude or nasty and I do my job, but I don’t bend over backwards. I’m that fucking jaded. I seriously seriously feel fucking trapped in retail and I AM LOOKING FOR ANOTHER JOB BUT I’M NOT FINDING ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT…so…

I think I’m gonna cry. I hate my job soooo much. It’s not the customers-most of them are nice, it’s not my coworkers, it’s the job.

Remember-it’s pathetic to pick on retail clerks, because you have control. You are allowed to treat me like shit, but I’m not allowed to defend myself. That’s chickenshit.

I do not work FOR the store in question.
I work AT the store in question.

They don’t pay me, and I should not be expected to do someone else’s job in someone else’s department just so they can save a few bucks on payroll.

That being said, let me explain.
Most department stores like Wal-Mart and K-Mart and Ames and Rose’s and Bradlee’s “rent” space to a shoe company. I work for one of these companies. I get paid by this company, and I follow their policies, not the store’s policies.

I am not required to work in other departments, run registers, answer the phone, do carryouts, or get items off top shelves. As a matter of fact, my worker’s comp won’t cover me if I get hurt while in a department other than the shoe department. So if I fall off a ladder while getting a George Foreman grill off the top shelf in Housewares because the store is too damn penny-pinching to have enough clerks available to help customers, I get to pick up the tab for any medical bills.

As a matter of fact,I can be FIRED if my district manager caught me working in another department.
It’s not my job to do the work that the store pays other people to do. They sure as hell don’t pay ME to do it. I don’t represent the store, I’m not supposed to do their work. I stay in my department and expect them to give me my sales figures for the previous day each morning, then I expect them to leave me alone and take care of their own damn customers so I can do my work.

Yet the store in question, like many others, will frequently have one person cover five or six departments. Matter of fact, there have been several times that only ONE WORKER other than me has been available on the entire sales floor. You know what that means - people come to me for help because the damn store is too fucking cheap to provide more associates for customer service. I get so few hours each week that I sure as hell don’t want to waste it doing someone elses’ work - if they want me to handle customer service in their own departments, they can fucking pay me to do so.

Also, Vinnie, just to let you know: “too many customers + too few salesmen=JOB SECURITY!” is not true. All it means is that your customers get pissed off and go somewhere else, which spells doom for your store. My store has been bought out/gone bankrupt/reopened twice in the four years I’ve worked there - I know what no customer service eventually ends in.
The managers constantly brag about customer service and beat it into our heads, yet we are slowly losing sales. I see the numbers every day - when you have a good-sized, well-known department store that only brings in around $10,000 a day on the weekends, you know the store is suffering. My whole store brings in less gross sales in a week than the local Wal-Mart does in ONE DAY.
That’s sad.

I also happen to live in Eastern Kentucky. Around my area, people think a career at McDonald’s or Wendy’s is “success in life”. That’s all there is around here anymore - fast food joints.
I know people who do the “work a day” thing at places like Labor Ready just to put food on the table.
My best friend sells her blood plasma on a regular basis for gas money.
Believe it or not, I actually have one of the better jobs in the area. I’ve put in dozens of applications over the years, but no one wants to hire someone who has a college schedule that changes every 3 months, not when the unemployment rate is so high here that they can find someone with a totally free schedule in less than a day. I get beaten out for jobs because of my college schedule, but I don’t dare drop out because I don’t want to flip burgers or straighten shoes the rest of my life.

NOW…
having said all this, does it really surprise you that I don’t give a damn about the store or the customers that shop there?
No, I don’t treat people this way in the store. This is the way I would LIKE to treat some people in that store, because I’m fucking fed up and I just felt like venting somewhere where I wouldn’t get my ass fired for it, because I can’t afford to be fired.

I make about $115 a week in net pay. $460 a month.
I have a $164 truck payment, I spend around $60 a month on gas, $20 for my Earthlink account (which I have to have because my college classes are all online) and I also pay $80 a month on my school loans.
That’s $324 already, not counting the fact that I buy all my own clothes, personal needs, etc. I’m not left with much. I live from paycheck to paycheck, I bust my ass for these people and get a 10 cent raise every year (even with a higher than average yearly review). I have no health insurance because I can’t afford it either.

I don’t buy the bullshit that if I give exemplary customer service that it’ll get me somewhere. Five years from now I’ll still be making under six dollars an hour and have no health insurance, or anything else to show for “exemplary customer service”.

Actually, I can just be up front NEAR a register (collecting my returns from the Service Desk for instance), and people constantly ask me this.
They also will walk up to a register with the light off, no clerks anywhere near it, and plunk their merchandise down and expect someone to magically materialize and check them out.
These are the idiots I’m talking about.
It’s blatantly obvious that the register isn’t open, and they go straight to it anyway, even though the register right next to it is the one that’s open.

Thanks for the clarification, Devin. I must admit, I’ve never seen a customer plop their selections down in a register line that wasn’t manned and wait for someone to show up. That’s ridiculous, and those people should be instructed on how the shopping rules work.

Oh, I’ve seen it. With registers that didn’t work. With OUT OF ORDER signs on them. People only see what they want to see.

First, Devin, thanks for fighting a bit of ignorance today - I had no idea that that was how shoe departments are run within department stores. Are you allowed/able to ring up purchases from other departments? I know that Bed & Bath will happily ring up my BBQ grill if I lug it up there, but maybe you can’t.

However, I’m sure your customers don’t know how department stores are organized, either. If you’re not doing it already, I’m sure a smiling “I’m sorry, but I’m actually not allowed to leave the shoe department” would help with a lot of customers. A few people will accuse you of lying, but the rest of us will say, “Oh, I’m sorry” and go about our business.

For the stuff like “where are the bathrooms,” of course, you have to just suck it up and be polite, and then go make fun of them on www.customerssuck.com. Around here, if you rant and rave without making it crystal clear that this is your after-the-fact venting after behaving appropriately in public, people will jump on you like Vinnie did. (And I generally agree with his views on customer service, but you are in a weird position because the public doesn’t understand how your job is different from that of anyone else in the store).

Well, dammit, maybe they ought to. Maybe they ought to understand that we work hard, we have problems, and even though we’re doing our best to be cheerful and helpful and deal with their concerns, there are going to be times when we’re busy and stressed and overworked and that all the training videos and “knock your socks off” books in the world are not going to allow us to stop being human beings and individuals.

And, on a somewhat different tangent, maybe they should try to solve their own problems before pestering someone else. I answer phones at an insurance company, and we send REAMS of information to people about their policies. But because they can’t be bothered to read any of it, not even their ID cards, we are constantly bombarded with hundreds of calls that they could have answered for themselves if they’d have bothered to open their damn mail.

My current personal favorite is the idiots who call me because one of their children isn’t listed on the ID card. “Have you tried turning the card over,” I ask. To a one they are insulted by the suggestion, and to a one the missing dependent is listed on the back. Now, I like helping people as much as the next person, but is it too much to ask that you TURN THE CARD OVER before you call me in a huff?

And I hear this level of question 50 times a day. So excuse me if, on the 20th time a day I recite how much your drug copay is because you can’t read it off the same card where you get the phone number to call me to ask, a tiny hint of irritation creeps into my voice. If you weren’t so rock stupid you wouldn’t irritate me at all.

And before anyone suggests that I get myself another job if I don’t like it, let me say two things. One, I’m already planning on quitting this piece of shit job in about two months when school starts again, and two, quitting this job won’t help because the morons who can’t figure out their insurance can’t figure out anything else either, and there are a lot more of them than there are of me.