The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

KarlGauss · December 12, 2020, 12:53am

Ah, I see. Thanks.

P.S. Fuck’m regardless.

Red_Wiggler · December 12, 2020, 12:57am

What the Don needs right now is a good wholesome campaign rally to boost his sagging spirits.

Seen in Fox comments: “Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Barrett are Deep State scabs who showed no loyalty to Trump for their nominations.”

Gorsnak · December 12, 2020, 1:02am

Alito and Thomas are horrible, but in this instance they’re being consistent. They believe that SCOTUS is legally obligated to hear cases in which SCOTUS has “original jurisdiction.” They have held this in the past as well, in cases that were not so politically charged - specifically, with regards to states suing neighbouring states over marijuana legalization. The idea that SCOTUS should have such an obligation is not ridiculous. I would be very surprised if, had the case been heard, they would not have signed on to a 9-0 decision that it was BS of the highest order.

Bleh. Don’t make me defend Clarence Thomas.

Steve_MB · December 12, 2020, 1:21am

“The lair of Javanka” sounds like it ought to be the title of an old D&D adventure module.

eschereal · December 12, 2020, 1:38am

He needs to hold a rally now in Lose-iana.

smithsb · December 12, 2020, 3:34am

Cowards and traitors.

Mike_Mabes · December 12, 2020, 3:38am

Did you go to 107 seperate links and post them? Impressive

running_coach · December 12, 2020, 3:51am

Image at the link for each of the cowards.

Rick_Kitchen · December 12, 2020, 4:21am

Individual 1 refused to make an appearance at tonight’s White House Christmas party.

Riemann · December 12, 2020, 4:27am

That poor little guy, what did it do to deserve this?

running_coach · December 12, 2020, 4:28am

The slime mold outran him.

Snowboarder_Bo · December 12, 2020, 4:50am

Vets are not happy with Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie:

JohnT · December 12, 2020, 5:08am

Meanwhile, things are totes normal over at Parler tonight:

Skywatcher · December 12, 2020, 5:14am

Ain’t no way Trump is gonna watch some namby-pamby play. He’s more of a Russian porno type.

Guest-starring_Id · December 12, 2020, 5:52am

Thought the SFLP (Sore Fucking Loser Party) was a good recent acronym, but I’m liking more now the timbre of the WSWTPNP (What Shit Will They Pull Next? Party)

ETA:
This Monday (And the 6th and the 20th, for that matter) can’t come soon enough.

OttoDaFe · December 12, 2020, 5:52am

Told my daughter that he was probably curled up with his gold binkie. She replied, “and McDonald’s.”

Ann_Hedonia · December 12, 2020, 2:47pm

They’re horrible people for sure, but if I were a judge I might agree with them.
I think all they are saying is everyone is entitled to their “day in court”, as it were - and the Supreme Court should not have the discretion to reject a case when the Supreme Court is the only venue for legal recourse.

I actually find the fact that they issued a statement to the effect of “You would’ve lost if we had heard the case” significant, and it was a powerful statement.

I do wish they’d gone further, and weighed in on every aspect of the argument instead of just rejecting it for standing — they should’ve burnt the roots and salted the earth around it like some of the other judges have done. But I guess they’re scared to poke the bear.

Northern_Piper · December 12, 2020, 4:17pm

Excuse me? There have been 50 cases brought by the Trumpers in the state and federal courts. There are ample other venues for legal recourse.

Also, the state v state jurisdiction does not mean that every dispute between the states can be brought as a legal claim. If there is a contract between the states, or a boundary dispute, or disputes about shared resource like water that crosses a state boundary, that will likely trigger the Court’s original jurisdiction. But a purely political dispute, like this?

Courts patrol their jurisdiction carefully. Suppose I were to sue the United States in my local Canadian Queen’s Bench, alleging that I’ve been damaged by the political measures taken by the Trump administration. It would be kicked out on jurisdiction immediately, as Canadian courts don’t have jurisdiction over foreign sovereign countries.

Similar here: just because some US states don’t like the election laws of other US states doesn’t mean it’s a legally cognizable original jurisdiction claim.

Remember, Marbury v Madison held that the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court is limited and cannot be expanded. Ever since then, they’ve been careful to keep the original jurisdiction limited, and rely on the lower courts to take the first stab at a legal dispute. No guarantee that the decision of the lower court will ever get to the Supreme Court for review.

Riemann · December 12, 2020, 4:28pm

In addition to what @Northern_Piper has said, with over 50 lawsuits already heard and rejected on their merits, surely the notion of a frivolous lawsuit should come to mind? This is a huge and more general problem in the overly-litigious U.S., and preposterous cases that don’t stand up to even a moment’s scrutiny should be smacked down aggressively. Both plaintiffs and lawyers who cause unjustifiable anguish and expense for defendants and waste a court’s time should be penalized.

Northern_Piper · December 12, 2020, 4:32pm

This is why courts in other common law jurisdictions have broad powers to impose court costs on the losing party, especially for frivolous claims.

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