The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)

There’s no consolation. Trump acted now because Stone was scheduled to report to prison next week. Trump commuted Stone’s sentence instead of pardoning him to minimize the political impact to his own re-election chances.

After the election, all bets are off. I have absolutely no doubt that he will pardon Stone before he leaves office.

It goes without saying (but I’ll say it anyway) that this is ludicrously corrupt. The only reason that Trump is doing this is because Stone is his long-time associate and (much more importantly) because Stone has dirt on Trump.

Exactly. Good article by David Frum here (Atlantic Monthly site — no paywall if you’re under the article limit). He clearly explains the 2016 events behind this, and is eloquently astounded at how brazenly frank Stone is about his Mafia-esque situation:

He’s already done this one. But because he’s an utterly moronic specimen of humanity, he thinks anything ‘negative’ in reference to himself is bad, so he tried to spin a negative COVID test into a positive test result.

I’ve tried, and I literally cannot emulate the damaged mental state it would require to say or write something like that.

I’m more worried about how Trump and some Republicans (governors for instance) will try to use COVID-19 to their advantage, and potentially, as an excuse to disrupt voting. Brian Kemp gave us a glimpse of the ultimate voter suppression weapon: sending out the national guard to ‘keep the peace.’ This will probably be replicated.

With all of the breaking COVID stories and the election coming up, I decided a month ago to subscribe at their $29 rate for a year. It’s been the best money I’ve spent in a long time. Plus I feel good about supporting their reporters when all newspapers are struggling.

So what?

Firstly, clearing your WaPo cookies will allow you to see the article.

Second, because it’s an opinion piece by a Washington Post columnist, and not straight news reporting, this particular article is only available on the Washington Post site, so the only alternative to a paywalled link is no link at all.

Thirdly, the post by ThelmaLou quoted a full five paragraphs from the story, paragraphs that make very clear what the article’s central argument is. Reading those five paragraphs alone is all you really need to understand the point, so even if you don’t have access to the full article, you get enough from the quote.

We’ve had this discussion on Dope board before. As long as people are willing to explain key issues in their own words, and/or quote a representative section from the article, it is completely appropriate to use paywalled or subscription articles on this message board. Refusing to use these sources would dramatically reduce the number of reliable, available repositories of news and information.

In addition to paywalled sites like the Washington Post, in my years on this board I’ve provided citations from subscription news sites like LexisNexis and ProQuest, academic sites like JSTOR and Project Muse and Wiley, and a whole bunch of others. Hard as this might be to believe, the sum store of human knowledge and understanding cannot be found on CNN. I completely understand that not everyone can afford to buy a subscription to everything (and that certainly includes me), but the fact that something is paywalled doesn’t mean it becomes off-limits as a source.

Yes, that’s true. They know what Trump is.

At the same time, they don’t know or care about what it actually takes to be a president, or what a president actually does, or how the presidency may or may not affect them personally. They know even less about Congress. All they know is what they watch on TV–which is basically The Apprentice and similar bullshit-- and they’re too mentally lazy to learn anything else. They think they’re voting for someone on or off the island in a bullshit “reality” TV show.

Trump knows this. The Republican Party not only knows this, but has been cultivating it for decades. They’re both exploiting it to stay in power. It’s how we got here.

Genuinely I’m shocked that my attempt at satire turns out to have been beaten by reality. I shouldn’t be shocked by now, but I still am.

Yeah I was thinking about this recently. Many trump voters get some strange kind of glee out of being wrong.
I know how weird that sounds. Surely no-one thinks of themselves as wrong?
But it started with the “deplorables” thing and people deciding to wearing t-shirts with deplorable on them. And now with things like roger stone, there are people celebrating it. Granted, many will reference “fake news” and claim the inquiry was a “witch hunt”, so implying they disagree about the legitimacy of the verdict.
But a lot of people seem to find enjoyment in the fact that this commutation upsets a lot of people, and that’s the beginning, middle and end of it for them.

So please help people out by quoting the relevant part of the story that you want people to see, instead of forcing people to read the whole story to try and figure out what the important part is, especially when it’s behind a paywall.

And clearing cookies doesn’t always work, FYI. My desktop computer somehow re-installs certain cookies immediately after I remove them; WaPo is one of the sites that does this.

I don’t get his argument that legislative subpoenas can’t compel one to produce private nonofffcial documents. Isn’t that how you close loopholes?

Will you look at the fucking post she’s complaining about?

As I pointed out, that post did, in fact, quote extensively from the article, and made very clear what the relevant argument was. You did not even need to click on the link to get the idea.

Here’s the post in question, if you’re too lazy to scroll up about 20 posts to find it yourself.

Actually, I have WaPo access through my Kindle via my Amazon account, it’s just a pain in the but to go look things up on my Kindle when I’m already at my computer. But really, Snowboarder Bo said it already:

My comment was not directed towards just the one post. It strikes me as polite to mention “Oh, by the way, there is/might be a paywall. Here’s the most relevant bit” followed by a quote. YMMV.

Shocked!

ICE is starting a series of classes around the country teaching private citizens how to arrest immigrants they find suspicious. The class includes the use of firearms.

I’m sure all the Karens will be signing up immediately.

Man, that sounds creepy. Sounds like a breeding ground for a whole new crop of George Zimmermans.

Well, Trumpy finally wore a mask in public! What a learning curve. Trump wears a mask during visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed | CNN Politics

Time to notify the Nobel committee. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Medicine or Peace?

Heck, both. I’m sure trump isn’t picky. We know he’s going to want some kind of award for wearing the mask.

Actually, upon reflection, it would not surprise me if he denied that he ever DIDN’T wear a mask. What if he says he’s been wearing a mask all along, in fact, it was his idea that people should wear masks, but the lying fake MSM refused to print pictures of him in the mask because they were trying to discredit* and smear him. Yeah, I can see him doing this.

*Of course, he wouldn’t use a fancy-schmancy word like discredit.

Medicine. Not to Trump but whoever put him together in a lab. Who thought he’d rum amuck?

“Putin’ on the Riiiiiitz”.