At least 3 dead in California garlic festival shooting
My first thought on reading Trump specifying “citizen” was “What? If they weren’t citizens Trump wouldn’t care as much?”
It seems to me that a citizen killing non-citizens or immigrants really wouldn’t upset Trump that much. Flip it around and he goes ballistic.
That Trump, what a kidder. At a ceremony marking his signing of the 9/11 victims compensation bill, Trump invites first responders and their families to the stage and notes that the stage may not hold them all, but if it collapses they won’t fall very far. Ha! A real kneeslapper!
At the same event, Trump claimed that he went to Ground Zero in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.
There is no “wrong” in “belief”. And the US has, via it’s constitution, elevated “belief” to the same level as “truth”. For instance, it really doesn’t matter that I think religious types are “wrong”; they can and do still act on those beliefs and then set about to try and shape the world in their idealized vision; it happens daily all over the world.
And that’s what these fascists on the right are doing, right now: they are using their limited authority, coupled with the very real and already-demonstrated willingness to use extra-legal or illegal force, to achieve their goals. And the left, because of caution or reluctance or simple indecision, are allowing it to happen. And will, for all I can see at the moment, continue to let it happen.
If he did, it was probably just to see for himself that it was shorter than the America-Hating Fuckstick Tower.
I don’t see that anyone in this thread mentioned that today Trump described Al Sharpton as “a con man, a troublemaker, always looking for a score” and that Sharpton “hates whites and cops”.
That strikes me as debatable, but in the interest of saving time, I’ll provisionally accept the word “wrong” being replaced with “deluded, because the set of things they believe does not intersect with the set of ‘objective facts about the universe’.”
Anyone who thinks this is Trump “reacting” is simply underestimating Trump and failin to deal with reality; it’s a strategy that is premised on racism and racial divisions. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Trump’s campaign is still very much tied in with Russian military intelligence and getting advice on how to use ethnic tensions to win elections, and to create a national crisis and seize administrative and police power: **this is the type of information warfare that Russia specializes in. **
This country is in a crisis the likes of which it has never seen, a crisis which could cripple the republic and turn it into a polarized bloodbath. Worse, we really don’t see it yet.
I’ll say it again: there is no “wrong” in “belief”. Go ahead, try and tell a Christian they are wrong in their belief in God. Tell a Muslim they are wrong in their belief in Allah. Tell a racist they are wrong in their belief in racial superiority. Tell a fan of BTS they are wrong in their belief in how awesome they are. I’ll bet you won’t get far with any of them in convincing them they are “wrong”.
That’s because “belief” doesn’t require facts. I’m not sure how you didn’t already realize this, but it is true. Whole empires have been built around beliefs, some of them lasting for centuries, encompassing millions of lives.
If you think someone has to be “right” to kill someone over a “belief”, well, you’re wrong.
Flat Earthers believe the Earth is a flat disc. Their belief is wrong.
Go tell them that. Let us know how the conversation goes.
Just read Dan Coats’ resignation letter. God, isn’t there any fucking republican or conservative who can just come out and say that this president is a corrupt piece of shit? I mean I get it: they don’t want to lose their lobbying/government affairs gigs, don’t want their retirement pension threatened, but don’t any of these people value something beyond their retirement? Fuck what a bunch of useless, spineless cunts.
It doesn’t matter what they believe. Their belief is factually incorrect. Their belief is wrong.
What he said was: “I was down there also — but I’m not considering myself a first responder. But I was down there. I spent a lot of time down there with you,” he said.
As usual, he has to make whatever is going on about him. What a lying piece of sociopathic shit he is.
Was Jon Stewart invited to the signing?
Yeah, right.
Are we sure that isn’t contrived? No one is that thoughtless.
No: your “facts” don’t matter to them. Go tell them your facts and let us know how the conversation goes.
Are you just waking up from a coma? :eek:
Seriously, how do you mean contrived? Like the video is tampered with, or that the audience was in in the gag or something?
It doesn’t matter whether they believe facts. If their beliefs are counter to facts, then their beliefs are wrong. Believing that the Earth is flat doesn’t negate that fact that Earth is a spheroid. Either the belief is wrong, or the facts are wrong. Since the facts are not wrong, the belief is wrong. They can argue until they’re blue in the face, and their belief is still wrong.
Great. Let me know how your conversation with one of them goes.
Probably a lot like this one.