The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

It can’t be both?

The former; Trump despises the very concept of helping others. If he thought the people he was talking to would benefit from it, that would be one of the few things that could shut him up.

I don’t know about that. I understand he’s very big on the whole quid pro quo thing.

That’s not about helping people. That’s about convincing other people to help him by doing the bare minimum (preferably just empty promises) for them.

“He’s so low, when they bury him they’ll have to dig up.”

Too complicated with too much of a chance to go wrong. Far easier to simply goad Muslims into orchestrating a true flag attack on Americans by say assassinating the highly respected political leader of a large Muslim country.

That is one of the most annoying aspects of this whole affair. The main negative consequence of this foolish action, namely the inevitable retaliatory attacks against Americans, is precisely the thing that will be pointed to as the reason it was the right thing to do.

“See the rocket attack on our Embassy in Saudi Arabia just demonstrates how bad the Iranians are and how right Trump was to take aggressive action against them.” :smack:

I think that is what they’re after… dissuade his customers and affect his “businesses”. The guy is a grifter. He can’t run a business for shit, they all went belly up (like who the FUCK goes bust with a casino) but now he “licenses” his name… for whatever the fuck that is worth.

If his “brand” goes down the toilet, so does he.

It’s a brilliant plan if it works. If they can wreck his brand, they won’t have to fire a single shot.

I like how they fixed the blame exactly where it belongs too. Squarely on Trump.

Trump has been trying to push them toward war ever since he tore up the nuclear agreement - which Obama signed and our now FORMER allies signed, and to which they were complying - and instituted his bogus “sanctions”.

I have a “special” problem with a “bone spur” having draft dodging coward trying to send everyone else to war, to salve his ego and deflect from impeachment.

CNN is now reporting that the airbase (Al-Asad) Trump was saying Iraq would have to compensate the US for if we were kicked out has been attacked with some rockets.

Iranians take credit for rocket attack on base housing US troops

It’s real now.

I wonder who has the job of keeping the orange dipshit in a straight jacket to keep his short, fat finger off the nuclear button while this missile attack takes place.

I also wonder if Pompeo may suffer the usual firing by Trump for having “steered him wrong.” Gotta blame someone.

If only all those psychiatrists weren’t out there calling him crazy and making him do stuff to

prove

that
he’s
not

All too likely.

You think there’s someone doing that? You are a greater optimist than I—I can’t help remembering that US military leaders went right along with the ‘assassinate a foreign nation’s general’ plan. Why would these same people stop Trump from launching nukes?

You’re right. I am prone to irrational optimism.

We know why he did this.

He has impeachment coming up, and it might be the last chance to kill someone. His base have their ears up for this stuff. He gets to: take credit for being a real grown up potus, have real blood on his hands, and advance his interests by distraction.

Killing someone means much much more for all his fascist fans than any strategy. In any case it goes back to terps mind alone, is he gatherig his narcissistic supply, and really just thinking about a notional atavistic delusional base, who will save him from the SDNY, rather than any idea of world affairs.

The Trump nightmare is just gettin’ started.

This is where the ‘fun’ begins.

This; he’s notorious for not keeping his end of any deal. He thinks that the *only *“good deal” is one that is totally one sided. If he’s not cheating somebody, then he’ll consider that as him losing.

Now, now, I have it on good authority that several military reps were “flabbergasted” that Trump chose the Suleimani assassination. Not that that stopped them from carrying out their orders, of course.

“I was just following orders”.
Been nice knowing you all.

Iran’s Foreign Mnister - tweets

Shorter version - “We’re done if you are.”

Well, insider trading in defense stocks (which was the original context of my comment) is certainly cheating.

If no US soldiers were killed, hopefully that will be the end, or the beginning of the end. That is our only hope. If US soldiers were killed, it’s war.