Hamlet
February 27, 2020, 7:16pm
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If it’s any consolation, the 3rd, the 7th, and the 9th circuits have rulings holding the opposite, as do many trial level judges who have considered the issue. In fact, a vast majority of courts that have considered it have ruled against Trump’s actions. Cite
Toxgoddess:
Ya know, I along with the rest of you have been watching this administration in horrified disbelief for the last three years, thinking “People won’t tolerate this latest clusterfuck…this has got to be the thing that ends the nightmare, right?”; and coming to the realization that yes, in fact, people will tolerate a shit ton more clusterfuckery than I had thought possible. And dejectedly realizing that if Trump decides to stay in office past the end of his term, a lot of people will support that (democracy be damned) and the nightmare might never end.
But this feels different. This feels like the thing that might, actually, bring Trump down. If the virus halts international travel and trade, worldwide economies take a big hit, people start dying over here, and the Administration does nothing but hem and haw and step on its dick…there will be consequences. Consequences beyond Trump’s ability to spin or his minions’ ability to control. Big business and donors will be furious, jobs will be lost, money will be lost, big money…big-time political donors might turn on Trump…oh, and did I mention people will die? That’s going to piss a few voters off.
This feels different. This is not political maneuvering. This is a force of nature coming at us. This feels like…like…divine retribution??? Could there be something in that after all?
Did not see this coming, although maybe I should have, given this Administration’s hostility to science, medicine, health care and expertise in competent managment of government operations. And I can’t say I’d be happy if it came about this way, considering the great pain it would cause. But the end of the Trump Administration would be, undoubtedly, a silver lining.
“This feels different…”
Maybe.
IF somehow this coronavirus thing leads to “The Economy” tanking (however individuals and groups choose to interpret that vague circumstance), AND IF that tankage can somehow be blamed on trump’s non-response, AND IF the Dems can deflect/dodge/escape the blame that trump will try to heap on them (especially Hillary and Obama) for whatever Bad Thing Happens, then maybe …
Steve_MB
February 27, 2020, 7:59pm
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ThelmaLou:
IF somehow this coronavirus thing leads to “The Economy” tanking (however individuals and groups choose to interpret that vague circumstance), AND IF that tankage can somehow be blamed on trump’s non-response, AND IF the Dems can deflect/dodge/escape the blame that trump will try to heap on them (especially Hillary and Obama) for whatever Bad Thing Happens, then maybe …
“TRUMP SLUMP” is a nice quick punchy phrase that rolls off the tongue. Democrats would have to be even more incompetent at messaging than they actually are to miss it.
In other news, il Doofus’ regime is moving quickly … to make sure that the people who know what they hell they’re talking about don’t contradict the propaganda from the hacks.
jsc1953
February 27, 2020, 8:07pm
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After the countless things that Trump has done that warrant impeachment, criminal prosecution, humiliating electoral defeat and/or condemnation to the 7th circle of hell: it would be deliciously ironic if what actually does him in is something that – let’s be honest, here – isn’t really his fault.
jsc1953
February 27, 2020, 8:09pm
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Steve_MB:
“TRUMP SLUMP” is a nice quick punchy phrase that rolls off the tongue. Democrats would have to be even more incompetent at messaging than they actually are to miss it.
In other news, il Doofus’ regime is moving quickly … to make sure that the people who know what they hell they’re talking about don’t contradict the propaganda from the hacks.
The linked article points out that three people have been named “primary” spokesperson for the task force. That should work smoothly.
Steve_MB
February 27, 2020, 8:18pm
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jsc1953:
After the countless things that Trump has done that warrant impeachment, criminal prosecution, humiliating electoral defeat and/or condemnation to the 7th circle of hell: it would be deliciously ironic if what actually does him in is something that – let’s be honest, here – isn’t really his fault.
Firing the experts in the field and putting butt-kissing hacks in charge of dealing with the crisis “isn’t really his fault”?
Tell me more; maybe I can come up with an excuse I can use if I even screw up my job that badly…
jsc1953
February 27, 2020, 8:20pm
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Steve_MB:
Firing the experts in the field and putting butt-kissing hacks in charge of dealing with the crisis “isn’t really his fault”?
Tell me more; maybe I can come up with an excuse I can use if I even screw up my job that badly…
The fact that the pandemic exists, and has breached our borders, is not his fault.
Of course, he’s handling it badly – that’s what he does.
jsc1953:
The fact that the pandemic exists, and has breached our borders, is not his fault.
Of course, he’s handling it badly – that’s what he does.
The fact that he’s gutted the CDC’s epidemic prevention offices is his fault.
It’s been pointed out that this is the first crisis he’s had to deal with that wasn’t of his own making - precisely the situation we were all afraid of in the first place.
Dag_Otto
February 27, 2020, 8:52pm
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So do they have to fight over the Sharpie or do they each get their own?
Scary thought: Trump is throwing Pence under the bus so he can have Ivanka as his running mate in November.
If you think that’s easy, let’s see you do it.
ROFL, I guess you’re fucked if you live in Alaska!!
Fugazi
February 27, 2020, 9:35pm
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I call “fake news”. No way Trump could find the US on a map of the world.
Don’t be silly! Alaska’s not part of the USA!
Toxgoddess:
But this feels different. This feels like the thing that might, actually, bring Trump down. If the virus halts international travel and trade, worldwide economies take a big hit, people start dying over here, and the Administration does nothing but hem and haw and step on its dick…there will be consequences
It will be Obama’s fault, and the fault of the Fake News and the Democrats. Obviously.
Fox news is already pivoting to “blame the Democrats”. If this does not work, I expect Pence to be thrown under the bus next.