Nope. Putin is the reason Trump won.
I can’t fucking believe you don’t care if Bill Clinton raped under-aged girls on a billionaire’s jet. Whether you believe it or not, you are shit personified for just casually ignoring facts that reasonable people/media have reported while grabbing onto ‘facts’ that fake obviously lying obviously biased media reports.
You didn’t even refute the whole post. He specifically says Fox News** or another more biased right wing source**.
That’s no stereotype. It’s just obvious. If you believe that either Trump didn’t say these things or that he was actually telling the truth, then you must be getting your information from right wing news sources, as none of the unbiased sources or left wing sources disagree.
You’re doing what “SJWs” are supposed to do: misinterpreting something and getting offended over something that wasn’t said.
And we’ve had thread after thread over why Trump won. It was not due to bad behavior on the left. That doesn’t even make sense.
Interesting that you act like Trump winning was a bad thing, though. Why are you defending him then?
Bwha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Hillary lost because she is an arrogant turd. She, in her Clintonian arrogance, refused the advice of Democrats on the ground (who actually talked to actual people) who advised her to get out and campaign in borderline states.
No, if being an arrogant turd prevented people from succeeding in politics, Donald Trump would never even have got within sniffing distance of the Republican presidential nomination. So that’s not it.
Ultimately, the reason Clinton lost is that after eight years voters had grown used to having a reasonably competent, responsible and intelligent (although far from perfect) Chief Executive in the Oval Office, and had forgotten what kind of disaster a truly unscrupulous and venal Republican administration could wreak.
So for many voters, the question of Trump’s incompetence and untrustworthiness seemed unimportant compared to their ardent desire for Pissing Off the Liberals. And for many others, nitpicking Clinton’s comparatively minor flaws and deceptions became such an obsession that they forgot to seriously scrutinize the alternative.
Of course, all of them are now in the process of finding out their mistake. (Except for the minority of voters for whom Pissing Off the Liberals remains their only genuine political goal, to the extent that they won’t consider any political decision a mistake, no matter how disastrous it ultimately proves, as long as liberals are pissed off by it.)
Someone needs to go into the closet and diddle for a few minutes, then lay off the breakfast wine.
Are we still feeding it?
You have to admit it’s pretty amusing. *Bill Clinton raped Dora the Explorer!! Hurr durr facts *
Then what sources do you frequent? Clearly, they’re part of the problem, because:
The sources that claim that Bill Clinton raped underaged girls are generally not reasonable people.
Why did I hold my nose and vote for Trump? Because he showed that he wouldn’t bow down and sell middle America out to a bunch of greedy international governments, who gleefully take American money and then stab Americans in the back with trade treaties, bullshit climate treaties, ‘let us give America - the people we hate, but need to defend us - treaties’ and then expect America to have their back … while snickering at all the money they got out of the American government. Because he realizes that ‘climate politics’ is just a way to put money into the pockets of disgustingly arrogant ‘liberal’ bullshit artists. Because he doesn’t actually care about race/creed//sexual orientation , but understands that anyone who wants a job and just wants to support his/her family and wants his/her family to be able to attend a school that teaches them things that actually give them the skills to get jobs to support their potential families (instead of the bullshit political/sexual correctness that has left 2 generations with attitudes, but no actual job skills) should have the ability to do so.
Why am I concerned about Trump? There are a good number of people Right wing and Left wing who assume that just because they have been able to find financial success that this means that their success means that every American, just from effort, will also get financial success. This just isn’t true. Any reasonable government has to adamantly hold firm against charismatic liars trying to get rich on taxpayer money and find in their heart a place for the ‘Onslows’ of society.
Every political party has within itself honest politicians who understand the plight of the ‘small’. Every political party has golddiggers who want power and ‘fuck the small’. The Clintons and Obama gleefully fucked the small. The Bushes, though not consciously, fucked the small because of their cowardice at not calling the liberal media and their divisive race/sex potitics out.
Who the fuck cares what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes for whatever gives them orgasms? As long as its consensual and not including children.
The media left and the political left has made this an issue, instead of caring that the middle-class (of all races, creeds, and orientations) can actually earn enough to own a home and raise a family and educate their children to get/hold actual jobs so they can raise a family who can actually get an education that can get them jobs …etc etc etc. The previous presidents in my lifetime didn’t seem to give a fuck about this.
You want to unpack some of that incredibly heavy baggage, or just spout platitudes? Let’s just start with the easy one - what treaty sells middle America out to a bunch of greedy international governments?
:rolleyes:
Would you like to compare the concrete policy proposals of Obama, Clinton’s campaign, and Trump’s campaign with regards to the plight of the middle and working class? Or just spout jargon? Seriously, you keep rolling up here with pithy one-liners filled with so much baggage, and I’m asking you to slow down and actually have a discussion about it. Unpack some of that baggage. Because I’m fairly sure you’re wrong, but I don’t actually know what specific things you’re talking about, because everything you say is a vague platitude. You’ve fallen for the republican line, when in fact the party that actually gives even the slightest semblence of a damn about the middle class is the democrats, regardless of whether you consider that too mired in identity politics.
This thread is about Trump, and you keep trying to change the subject. If you want to Pit Bill Clinton feel free. The only facts I’m grabbing onto are Trump’s own words.
No, people like you who believe things that are diametrically opposed to reality are the reason Trump won. You’ve posted several things already that were not merely wrong but were the exact opposite of the truth, and then used that as your justification for voting for Trump. This seems to be a common theme with Trump supporters. And that’s not “casual stereotyping”; it’s empirically evidenced.
Look, jackass; I asked you already for proof of your accusation against Bill Clinton. Simply repeating it is not proof. Put up or, for goodness sake, shut up.
As I said earlier, you voted for Trump because you wanted to.
Anyone voting for Trump because they thought he cared about the working class really hasn’t been paying attention.
So does it disappoint you that Trump seems keen on ravaging the working class to the benefit of the rich? Do you feel betrayed?
Anyone who thought Trump had class wasn’t paying attention.
Don’t feed the troll. His responses are longer than Okra’s but equally content-free.
My money’s on “No, because Bill and/or Hillary *something something *Dark Side”.