It’s interesting that Omarosa Manigault mentioned there were things that made her uncomfortable in the White House (before being fired). I have no doubt that she did hear things that would have made ordinary people of any ethnicity uncomfortable, but the obvious question is why is she only now uncomfortable? Did she think that Trump’s racism was just campaign schtick that can be turned on when he’s trying to win white votes and off when he’s governing?
I actually know at least two immigrants from China who supported Trump and I have the feeling that in the not-so-distant future they’re going to be brutally awakened to the fact that white nationalism doesn’t include them.
People can delude themselves to extraordinary degrees.
In another thread you compared Republicans to the Quislings who helped run Vichy France. You don’t think the Vichy collaborators thought they were in the wrong, do you? Hell no; many truly believed they were helping a rebirth of a purer, better French Republic. Only when it all fell apart and the hangmen came did many of them realize they had been serving the devil all along.
I keep hoping.
I don’t think much of Kickback Corker anymore either.
The majority of us did NOT vote for that fat fuck. So, right fucking back at you.
Corker and Flake are not “the good ones”, and neither is McCain or Susan Collins. They’re pathetic little weaklings who are accomplices in the destruction of America as we know it. They cannot be excused or forgiven. As far as I am concerned, the Republican party are not much better than bacteria.
At some point, I think there will eventually be enough of white America that finally realizes that they’re being pandered to and that the Republican party isn’t their friend. Eventually, they will realize that most of what the Republicans stand for is a shrinking middle class and that they’ve embarrassed and weakened the United States irreparably, and more importantly, that a weaker America globally hurts them domestically. When Americans finally wake up and realize this, there will be a reckoning. The so-called “good” Republicans should not be spared. They’re just as complicit as Donald Trump and Steve Bannon. Unfortunately, between now and the time that this awakening occurs, there’s going to be untold damage. Who knows what state we’ll be in at that point.
But can you blame the sentiment? Really? I mean how does Donald Trump even get past a primary? How is he even on the ballot unless there isn’t something fundamentally flawed with American society and democracy? Again, we’re not Maoist China. We’ve had choices. We’ve had the unfettered ability to participate in elections over decades, even centuries. And this is the result of our democracy. Donald Trump. Vichy Republican collaborators. It’s not like the electorate doesn’t have access to information - there’s Google after all. Curious voters who want information have access to more information than all of the previous generation of Americans combined; we just doesn’t have the curiosity or the ability to see a world beyond American shores. And that’s the problem - a big one.
You can’t blame people in Europe, or Mexico, or Canada, or Australia, or New Zealand for having a dim view of Americans. They’re supposed to feel sorry for the per capita largest contributor to climate change when we have all the fucking control and power in the world to impact change and possibly come up with solutions. And what do we do? We elect a climate change denier. We’re one of a handful of countries on earth - Russia and maybe the Gulf States being the others - where a majority of people didn’t really believe in climate change science until just recently, and even now, many tend to be the equivalent of “flat earthers” int that regard. So if you’re an Australian watching homes burn in Melbourne or Sydney because of extreme climate conditions, or if you’re living on the coastline in South America, Europe, or New Zealand, you’re supposed to feel sorry for America?
FTR, I’m not disagreeing with you – half and even slightly more than half are appalled by what’s happening right now. But I’m sorry, when someone like Donald Trump and the equivalent of modern day brown shirts run for office, it’s not good enough to say that barely half the country opposes them. In a democracy, they should be laughed off the god damned stage at the idea of even running to begin with.
I understand the sentiment in general, but then again, the fat orange bastard did not have the majority. So, WE did not do it. I voted in turn for Clinton (Bill), Kerry, Obama, Clinton (Hillary). So did a huge number of other people. Bush won because of “hanging chads”, questionable Diebold voting machines, and general shenanigans In Florida, culminating in a questionable win. Trump won through the way the rules of the Electoral College are set up, Russian meddling, and voter suppression despite losing the popular vote. Oh and he should be thanking that stupid bastard Comey too.
So don’t blame me.
I know a lot more than 2 immigrants from China that supported Trump, and donated some real dollars to his campaign.
Several of them have kids on the autism spectrum that are dollars to donuts going to lose services. One lives in Texas, so that $10k housing tax exemption is going to bite him too. Merry fucking Christmas
This may be taking things too far off on a tangent, but did they really think what you are saying, or did they think “this sucks to be laid low by the Nazis, but with this Vichy government we can at least limit the damage to the French people and hang on to at least some control over part of our own country”? I always had the impression that it was mostly the latter.
Yes, they should be. I’m appalled, horrified, and shocked that this was not the case. But contra your rant against “all Republicans”, I think it’s important to note that there are a significant number of “chattering class” conservatives that do find him appalling (recall the National Review issue dedicated to opposing him, or see how George Will continues to rail against him regularly).
But even if you don’t buy that perspective, there are many millions of us (I am one) who have never voted for a Republican. We are just as disgusted by what they do, think, and say as people who happen to be located in other countries. We just happen to live within the boundaries of *this *country, uneasily residing in the same legal jurisdiction as Trump voters; that doesn’t mean we’re part of some kind of collective consciousness with the “deplorables”. This collective guilt is just not valid; or if it is, we should go ahead and fault Europeans and Australians and all other humans for being part of the same human race that produced Trump.
Because he’s practically the modern Republican party manifested in human form. Greedy, stupid, dishonest, arrogant, irrational, bigoted, sexist, ignorant and totally lacking in virtues of any kind. The Republicans voted for him and support him because he genuinely represents what they are. Scum.
To be fair, that human piece of trash president we have can’t tell if anyone is a blithering idiot, because they’re still all geniuses next to him.
Nobody’s blaming you; they’re blaming us in the collective sense. The blame is fair, I’m afraid.
Okay, here’s where I was going with this - and this might piss some off but it needs to be said. Americans are just fucking ignorant as fuck. We, collectively, truly are.
Not to call you out, but your earlier posts re: North Korea and those references to “Neville Chamberlain” are a perfect example. Americans get their “history” and knowledge of politics and world affairs from…the History Channel (the same channel that’s famous for that wacky Aliens meme guy).
Anyone with a cursory knowledge of history would understand that comparing North Korea to Adolf Hitler is a bad analogy. Yes they’re both a-holes but the contexts are different. And that’s the problem: most Americans - even the supposedly educated ones - have no fucking clue about how events are perceived outside of their own borders. As I said in another thread, every “bad” guy in America is a “schoolyard bully”. It’s not just ordinary folk who see world events but our supposedly most intellectual and skilled foreign service and intelligence officers. Our cognitive elite lack the knowledge of the world that could be acquired in even a basic high school anthropology or global studies class in, say, Canada or the EU.
And even *more *of them thought they’d been right all along, “the judeo bolsheviks won and it’s a disaster forever” (or convinced themselves it was thus, because the alternative would have been admitting they’d been wrong, and for many people that’s a fate worse than death)
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I think by “chattering class” you refer to Americans who have passports and might even click on foreignpolicy.com. Yes, Americans with a clue … had a clue. But I’m not sure what you mean by “significant number” since Trump got 3 million more votes than Romney did.
Unless yo’re counting “conservatives” who were appalled by the ignorant short-fingered buffoon, but thought anybody would be better than the Witch of Benghazi for President.
Trump was transparent throught the primaries and the federal election. There is no excuse for people who voted for him. Ignorance is not an excuse.