I would amend that to “goes through the motions of intending/pretending to keep his promises,” but otherwise, I agree. This is it in a nutshell.
However, sadly, this is also true:
No matter how bad things get, the Trumpniks will NEVER blame him and NEVER blame themselves for electing him. They are too dumb to make the connections, and why should they? It’s always going to be The Other Guy’s fault, “other” being the key word: blacks, immigrants, Jews, Democrats, women, people with college degrees, anyone who doesn’t look like them.
Bad consequences, even devastating consequences of thump’s gummint that rain down on their heads will NEVER make them abandon their champion. I truly do not know what would make the hard core turn against him.
As it stands, what do they have to blame him for? He’s giving his supporters what they wanted; support for white Christian supremacy. Of course they’re going to vote for a guy who gave them what they voted for the first time.
The one thing that will cause a drop on Trumpist enthusiasm and support is the economy. That’s it. Trump can reliably deliver the hatred and division they want, but if the jobs start drying up and the money’s short, people become dissatisfied.
Honestly, this is such horseshit.
The Michelle Wolf bit doesn’t affect the media’s credibility one bit. Not a smidgen. Partially, this is because the comedian at the dinner is a tempest in a teapot who pisses people off every year. Most people didn’t really even notice the Wolf flap, and fewer still will remember it in a few months, just as few people remember who did it in years past (even though many previous comics have also viciously attacked public figures.) Who was the comedian in 2009? 2005? 2012? they were all famous comedians, can you remember them? Of course not. Wolf’s performance was a bit more memorable than Wanda Sykes, Cedric the Entertainer, or Jimmy Kimmel, but that amounts to “will be rememberd for six weeks instead of six hours.”
More to the point, though, it doesn’t matter. There is not a soul out there who watched Michelle Wolf’s fine set and said “well, now I don’t trust the media, but I did before.” Trumpists have long since abandoned fact; they operate on feelings, which Trump himself understands and uses to his ongoing advantage. No one’s feelings were changed by this; much of the media is hostile to Wolf because she criticized them so accurately, but they’ll get over it and go back totheir usual battle stations. Trumpists already trusted FOX and mistrusted real news, and patriotic Americans already mistrusted FOX and Trump and agree with Michelle Wolf’s comments. the 2018 election will be decided by the state of the economy and the quality of campaigning and candidates, as it was always going to be.
Noew, having said that, I do agree with yoou that the WHCA dinner didn’t really serve a useful public purpose in light of current events. (It really isn’t supposed to, but we’ll run with it.) That’s not Michelle Wolf’s fault - and, in fact, she was the one who seemed to understand that. While the press and the traitors were cheerfully enjoying expensive food and drink and blowing each other with industry awards, Wolf was the one standing up and saying “You guys are liars and you other guys are helping them so fuck you.” The WHCA’s disavowal of her remarks was pathetic, cowardly, and stupid, but in a way entirely appropriate and a vindication of Wolf, whose insults against the press were much, much cmore cutting than against Sarah Sanders. She accused Sanders of being a liar, but at least that really is Sanders’s job. She accused the media of failing in their job and helping Donald Trump ruin the country, which is way, way worse. She crashed the party with an invitation, quite on purpose. Godo for her. She’s an American citizen and had a once in a lifetime opportunity to tell the suits what she as a citizen thought of them.
But did the media lose credibility as a result? Hell no, they’d lost it already. No one’s opinion is changed.
…well I was talking about the strategy for winning in November. Because I was responding to jsc1953, who was talking about the strategy for winning in November. It is part of the discussion because that is what we were discussing.
For fucks sakes make an effort to understand the conversation you are interrupting.
The media are biased and a lot of the reporting is more personal and subjective in nature than objective. Why do you want to hide this fact?
You do realize I don’t give a shit about the media, don’t you? I’ve been defending Michelle Wolf from the ridiculous attacks from the media over the last couple of days. I’ve been defending the “inappropriate monologue.” Yes, the WHCD confirmed that many of the Washington Press Corp are a bunch of arseholes. I’m well aware of that. Unlike you though I have no interest in manipulating the perception of the press. Many have been complicit with the Trump Administration and this dinner has pointed a shining light on that fact.
They were played when they accepted the GOP narrative, which is exactly the same thing you have swallowed hook, line and sinker. Congratulations on getting played, and not even realizing it.
What a fucking stupid idea.
Just a friendly reminder that I’ve been defending the “profane entertainer.” Do you even know her name?
Oh fuck off with your condescending bullshit. Of course there are plenty of sources. But SHS is an important source because:
When you have a source that gives you reliable, accurate information almost directly from the heart of the administration you don’t burn that source.
You mean the idiots who try to tell them that tax cuts do not increase tax revenues, that trillion dollars deficits will cost them their social security and Medicare, that coal jobs are not coming back for non-conspiracy reasons, or that the Founding Fathers did intend Christianity to be covered by the separation of church and state?
There is one thing, and only one thing - If he spoke the truth - “The wall is a stupid fucking idea, Hillary has been investigated and nothing is there, the tax cuts are for the rich and are going to ultimately screw you, Scott Pruitt has to go as he is going to fuck up the environment. etc. etc.” They would abandon him.
Of course Trump is not capable of telling the truth or recognizing simple facts. Much like his base.
That’s pretty damn funny. But fuck that doctor. And why didn’t the interviewer ask him “When you were told to write what Trump told you to write, why didn’t you immediately resign in protest? Why should we believe anything you say if you lied about the health letter?”
This is incorrect, IMO. The jobs were already drying up and the money was already short. That dissatisfaction and unease is a big part of what got Trump elected in the first place.
As I’ve said: people already feel that the system doesn’t work for them and they are not interested in continuing that system. And when I say “system” I mean “the current socio-political system in the US”, not just “a Democratic POTUS”. FFS, we’ve listened to Grover Norquist rant about “drowning the government in a bathtub” for decades now at GOP rallies; do some people still think that was just a colorful metaphor?
The regular people are fed up and they are partly right: the system isn’t working for them. But many (most?) don’t realize that the rich people making the same complaint have a different perspective, so they don’t see that they are being manipulated, that the outcome their patrons desire isn’t at all the outcome that they themselves need.
If the economy tanks, it won’t cause Trump to lose much support at all, IMO, because to all of them, it won’t, it can’t, be Trump’s fault: nothing ever is.
Dr. Feelgood should have called the cops the minute the thugs showed up and ransacked his office. Of course, he shouldn’t have signed that bit of fluff memo. We all knew it was dictated by Orangeanus two years ago, why didn’t he speak up then. Of course, Bornstein basically admitted to violating HIPAA by revealing a medication that his patient was on. That’s a Bozo no-no.
I think they with the help of Fox News would make up all kinds of deep state conspiracy theories to explain why this was happening if it did. It wouldn’t be them turning on Trump, he would be a martyr in their scenarios.
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Even if he spoke the truth at rallies? FOX would what, convince everyone that saw him that it really wasn’t him? I don’t know if even his supporters would believe that. But they did vote for him after all…
“In a brilliant move to keep liberals off-guard, President Trump announced today that the wall with Mexico will not be built. 'People sure were crying about the wall, weren’t they? I mean, even the President of Mexico was crying. Big concessions were offered to America, the best concessions involving trade with many countries because of the wall,” Trump stated yesterday during a call-in to Fox & Friends. Trump supporters loudly trumpeted his business and political acumen"
Hell, if heard it from him, it would be such an obvious reversal that I would suspect something. Not that it wasn’t him, necessarily but that someone else was calling the shots.
And I don’t believe in Deep State conspiracy theories. If you do, then he’s been brainwashed or they have something on him or something like that.
As for the other people, they might go a different route, and assume it’s a DeepFake video, and all the people saying it happened were paid off actors. Hell, I would be inclined to think the video was fake. (Though I would believe people who were there, unless there was some preexisting reason not to. I’d just jump back to the first paragraph.)
I’ll skip over all the other tripe and get to this because this one’s a fucking corker.
Uh huh, right. Yeah if they don’t take to Twitter to defend her, then they’ll never get invited to another meaningless White House press briefing.:rolleyes:
Look, you were right the first time when you labeled SHS a liar and a mouthpiece for the administration
But above you contradict yourself by claiming that she’s a source that provides reliable, accurate information directly from the heart of the administration. Which is it?
For Christ’s sake, she provides meaningless quotes at even more meaningless press briefings - she says just enough so that they can walk out of the room with a quote in hand. I won’t disagree with you that SHS is obviously an important source, but she’s not going to keep reporters from doing their job - if they really want to do their job, that is. If reporters want background, then they go to sources in a position to provide background, and there are plenty more of those than just SHS.
But in a White House that allowed Michael Wolff to walk around the White House barely being noticed long enough to write a salacious best seller, I think there are more sources than just SHS. The press didn’t defend SHS because they were afraid she would hold some petty teenage grudge if they didn’t come to her defense. Rather, some apparently realized in retrospect that the optics aren’t going to play well with ordinary people who already view the press with suspicion.